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Imagine holding onto hope after super Tuesday or whatever.

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More like pooper Tuesday I didn’t like it at all

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Have their actually been struggle sessions on this site about voting for Biden? That if someone ironically says “vote for Biden” that should be an insta ban.

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My take is that voting for Biden isn’t significant harm reduction, but not voting for him/Trump winning isn’t either. Some people (I know it’s a minority) are so anti-Biden that they think not voting for him will accomplish something. An accomplishment would be the People’s Party/Green Party getting more votes than ever before, more democratic socialists running as Democrats and winning, more organizations active on the streets and in local politics. But Biden losing (if he loses) won’t, by itself, make anything better - and might make things worse.

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My take is that voting for Biden isn’t significant harm reduction, but not voting for him/Trump winning isn’t either.

I am not claiming not voting to be “harm reduction”. At least, it’s not the primary intent. I could see how not voting could have positive side effects, like the Dems get wiped out and replaced by a good left party (I don’t think nearly enough people will stay home to make that happen, but that’s what would happen if they did).

But my non-vote has nothing to do with harm reduction. I’m just not voting because they both suck and neither one bothered to do anything to earn my vote.

If the dems want my vote that bad, they should offer me something. Not continue being the warmongering grifters they are, and then scold me for not voting.

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But my non-vote has nothing to do with harm reduction. I’m just not voting because they both suck and neither one bothered to do anything to earn my vote.

If the dems want my vote that bad, they should offer me something. Not continue being the warmongering grifters they are, and then scold me for not voting.

Right, I’m entirely on board with this. Please vote in any competitive races down ballot though - there are choices that matter there.

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i’m not talking about acceleration or “our turn”

but the left was weaker under Obama.

I don’t care about Trump, he’s bad but he’s a known quantity.

DNC is a belligerent anti-left political bulwark. I just want to see DNC lose, and lose big

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But Biden losing (if he loses) won’t, by itself, make anything better - and might make things worse

It’ll make things better insofar as the neolib wing of the party will lose the political mandate it won with Bernies loss and invigorate the progressive wing of the party, which not to sound too libish or whatever would maybe be a good thing

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The Dems are finally what they’ve always wanted to be in the last 20 years, they have finally become the Republican Party.

This is exactly what is happening. But hey, “vote blue no matter who”, right?

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Are we gonna have a struggle session again today

Remind me again when this happened? You can make a point without making shit up.

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Almost every single post that mentions Biden has a struggle session in the comments

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We’re mere weeks away from Biden calling Trump a communist

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biden calling trump a maoist on debate will rule

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Biden attacks Trump from the right and sends his KKK friends after him

Unexpected but brilliant maneuver

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So… is the entire campaign now a big “No, U!” with a side of fascism and no healthcare?

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when hasnt it been

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You just described the entirety of mainstream American politics

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When did Trump call for defunding the police?

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listen jack black fat

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They’re just copying the right wing tactic of “reality doesn’t matter just say whatever”

Trump is an evil socialist and China is responsible for most of the CO2 emissions

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Donald Trump is an ANTIFA super-soldier anti-imperialist nowadays, apparently. Frankly, I’m as confused as you are.

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When when when when when when when calm down man!!! You’re making me nervous.

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He hasn’t. The closest he’s done is call for cutting funding to major cities run by democrats which would indirectly cause there to be less funds for police.

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Trump wants to defund NYC which would completely defund the NYPD.

In all seriousness, Trump wants to defund all public services and replace them with private contracts for his loyal donors. But no, he hasn’t explicitly said like “defund the police.”

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I like laughing at them as much as anyone but this is just boring campaign sniping, spinning things misleadingly that are technically true.

Trump’s proposed budget called for a cut in funds for the Office of Justice Programs, which gives grants to communities for things including policing. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there is more state police funding elsewhere, or they just plan to ramp up use of the National Guard and CBP for local policing because they can subvert disagreeable locals.

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