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It should be a good thing but it won’t be under capitalism.

Best case scenario we either revolution everything before then or the singularity turns out to be communist.

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the singularity is a myth made up by weird nerds. AI isn’t sentient is a masterfully marketed way of getting computers to do statistics

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Nice try AI

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nerds really just make their whole philosophy and political ideology from their parasocial relationship with R2D2

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thats how I view it too… but its also inevitable so it seems like instead of throwing a fit about AI automating our jobs we should be really throwing a fit about not having enough safety nets for that to be a good thing.

I do wonder what capitalists plan on doing when most everything is automated though. Its only a matter of time and that gives people A LOT of time to sharpen their guillotines.

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i worry they can’t wait until full automation so they can brutally exterminate us. some of these people think they are a different species.

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it’s literally the Luddite situation and nothing has changed about it

it is Good but because it makes large swathes of the population economically obsolete it’s Not Good

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Good under communism, bad under capitalism

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It’s good and communism requires it, only capitalism manages to take “less labor produces more goods” and twist it into a bad thing.

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But if I’m entitled to the surplus value of my labor how do I get any when the AI take my job and I don’t do any labor

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Because the necessary labor and the wealth are considered communally. The first half of the deal, “from each according to his ability,” means doing your part of the socially necessary labor. As automation decreases the amount of human labor required to sustain the whole of society, there’s less work required of each person while everyone still gets the other half of the deal, “to each according to his need.”

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:gold-communist:

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FULLY!

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You’d still be entitled to the surplus value of whatever other labor you do. Through central planning a socialist state can move all the people who were displaced by automation into other fields, and with the amount of hands that are freed up by automation you’d probably work very little. On top of that the commodities that are produced through automation would be owned in common and would be put towards meeting everyone’s needs, so no one will be homeless or will starve because they no longer have a job. If all labor is automated (which can’t really happen IMO) we’d still have all the commodities, yet held in common and given to each according to their need.

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Is tool, is okay if used by a friendly hand, not so okay if used by an unfriendly one.

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