Why aren’t “young working-class people trying to choose between voting labour and not voting at all” considered swing voters?

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That would show people without capital that they can use their numbers to leverage political concessions, which would be an absolute worst case scenario for bourgeois democracy. Better to lose ten elections in a row than let that happen.

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Cuz they poor

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in the UK if you don’t own land you can basically just die for all the state cares

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Either they see those votes as a given, or see young working-class voters as in the same boat as your standard Tory or UKIP voter: not voting Labour because they’re not racist enough…would be my most generous answer.

But Labour’s dead and serves as controlled opposition. Anytime Tories mess up, Labour is allowed to have a little time with slightly larger opposition to soak up the blame for the fash.

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Labour was getting nervous that they might actually win an election, so they had to steer the ship back into the iceberg.

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Well, they’re showing their racism because they’re courting white male voters because the PM is POC

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That’s even more gross 🤢

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paid to lose.

they could’ve clawed back so much lost ground among the working class if they’d supported the fucking strikes. but no.

instead they go panting after what, landlords? cos yeah they’re gonna vote red tory when there’s already a proper tory party…

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the good thing about the strikes though is that the power to do them comes from the unions and their ability to stop work. There were unions before there was a labour party

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Technocratic politics, everyone. Having principles is inefficient and inflexible. Instead, stand for absolutely nothing and openly announce to everyone that your goal is to win regardless of the positions you have to adopt to do so.

Sleek, streamlined, undisprovable, and it eliminates those pesky morals and convictions that make compromising with Nazis so needlessly difficult.

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The ideological battles are over. We are at The End of History. All that remains is to choose the more competent managers. Change is as pointless as it is futile.

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Keir starmer taking cues from the Dems I see

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that’s literally what happened a particularly useless faction of the labour party see themselves as kin to the democratic party ultimately this was caused by online news and the fact the guardian a useless semi-left paper now has it’s majority readership with democrat Americans

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Nah, the tories take cues from us. We’re closer ideologically to them than the misogynist leftists in Labour

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