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I know many affluent libs that hold very progressive views (and dare I say, genuine about it)

but I also know that they will defend the status quo to the end.

So they’re hypocrites and their “progressive views” count for nothing :shrug-outta-hecks:

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Yeah they dont until they do something useful. Youre not a good guy if youre rich until you do something. Posting and having right opinions doesnt count as doing something.

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Your class determines your revolutionary potential.

That’s true in aggregate, but individuals can become revolutionaries, no matter their class

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You have to let that resentment go. It will eat you up inside and make you bitter and you will inadvertently close your mind to new ideas. If you are still friends with these people and want to communicate still then you need to talk to them about how in the past you were hurting and you are disappointed that they didn’t see that or ignored it. If they act nonchalant or dismissive then just cut them out of your life. Better to do it sooner than later, especially if it’s causing you anguish.

Source: was a bitter bastard for a long time but hid behind a facade of humor and jokes. Don’t do what I did. Don’t tell a lie so long and often that you start to believe it yourself. I am convinced it is an indirect kind of self harm.

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what else is there to know besides rich people suck and ruin the world even if they’re “lefties”, i feel like being bitter to some degree is a healthy reaction to that unwinnable situation.

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Fair point, but for me I’d rather hate than be bitter. Maybe that’s just semantics.

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That’s juvenile.

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I think it’s okay to resent those people in particular. They haven’t actually transitioned into real class consciousness or even, really, just being considerate towards you.

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When I was in undergrad, I was friends with a group of mostly privileged kids…

Brutal.

Any suggestions?

Marx was an upper class intellectual, Engels was a member of the bourgeoisie so theres that.

I don’t see any reason not to hate your “friends” though they sound like a bunch of bloodless soylent-guzzling PMC ghouls who shamelessly virtue signal on FB, despite the awful shit they did in the past. Its pretty sane and good to see them as full of shit until they address what they did imo.

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You dont have to worship marx or engels, just because two rich people did a good thing doesnt absolve the rest of rich people even well meaning libs on facebook. I probably wouldnt like them in real life and I recognize that they kind of sucked for being fancy lads.

In my opinion, “doing something” is the bare minimum you can do as a rich leftist, you have all the necessary resources and you squander it to preserve the status quo, have correct opinions on facebook and to have read the right books.

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two rich people did a good thing doesnt absolve the rest of rich people even well meaning libs on facebook.

People always highlight how Engels was a member of the bourgeoisie and gloss over the fact that he joined a revolutionary army and almost died in the process. Yes, Engels gets a pass for almost dying in his attempts at putting bullets into the skulls of his fellow bourgeois ghouls.

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In 1849, Engels travelled to the Kingdom of Bavaria for the Baden and Palatinate revolutionary uprising, an even more dangerous involvement. Starting with an article called “The Magyar Struggle”, written on 8 January 1849, Engels, himself, began a series of reports on the Revolution and War for Independence of the newly founded Hungarian Republic.[62] Engels’s articles on the Hungarian Republic became a regular feature in the Neue Rheinische Zeitung under the heading “From the Theatre of War”; however, the newspaper was suppressed during the June 1849 Prussian coup d’état. After the coup, Marx lost his Prussian citizenship, was deported and fled to Paris and then London.[63] Engels stayed in Prussia and took part in an armed uprising in South Germany as an aide-de-camp in the volunteer corps of August Willich.[64][65][66] Engels also brought two cases of rifle cartridges with him when he went to join the uprising in Elberfeld on 10 May 1849.[67] Later when Prussian troops came to Kaiserslautern to suppress an uprising there, Engels joined a group of volunteers under the command of August Willich, who were going to fight the Prussian troops.[68] When the uprising was crushed, Engels was one of the last members of Willich’s volunteers to escape by crossing the Swiss border. Marx and others became concerned for Engels’s life until they finally heard from him.[69]

That owns that does earn him a pass in my book, even though he seems like a fancy lad piece of shit in all the other areas of his life.

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