They’re still going through with it and maintaining that they have the right to change the terms whenever they feel like. As expected they’re rolling back one or two things (which they can undo whenever they want) and acting like people won. Fuck WotC.
I just wanna play Call of Cthulhu.
But actually i kinda don’t cause learning new systems does not agree with my brain right now, don’t have the attention span.
Call of Cthulhu looks cool but apparently it really takes the right dm. It’s very heavily investigation based and if your dm can’t lead a mystery right the game just doesn’t work, any rail roading at all completely ruins the experience. Had a friend play with a bad dm and they said it was the worst game they ever played in. Still seems like it would be awesome with some one adept at story telling leading it.
I ran it once and it took place on an ocean ship and my plan was for to have a creature break into the food stores and use the looming threat of starvation for suspense, like the players start having to eat hard tack infested with maggots and stuff to survive.
The first time the players sat down in the dining room they immediately started cracking a bunch of jokes about how it’s the 20’s so all the food is probably like hard tack with maggots or something and I’m sitting there like :side-eye-2:
Yeah no sense of dread at all there. “as you walk through the woods a feeling of unease begins to take hold, (roll for perception) you notice your shadow is growing longer and longer while those of your companions stay the same” Much different atmosphere.
Even if WotC some how regains every last bit of good will it lost this has still been a massive win for the ttrpg community and especially VTTs. D&D has lost its momentum, players are looking at other games, creators no longer feel safe creating d&d specific assets. Watching all the people on patrion switch from 5e to Pathfinder or system agnostic is beautiful and can never be undone.
Paizo was already officially supporting foundry and yesterday gave away so many starter packs their site crashed. D&D has lost the VTT war.
and yesterday gave away so many starter packs their site crashed
This?
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yeah, I thought they gave away some other stuff too, but by the time I was paying attention to their give aways everything was lagging and crashing so I’m not 100% sure. Also if you play their system on foundry you get all of their iconics premade plus all the rule books are all there free, but that’s always been that way.
Pandemic ruined my attempt to get into D&D, but even as an outsider I’m loving watching them crash and burn.
Lmao dorks
“Uh um we just wanted to update the license to stop (pst frank, what does the fans say they hate?) Stop the Racists! And NFTS!”
Glad I dropped WotC content over the last couple of years. Well, mostly, I still play 3.5 sometimes, but out of the stack of books I own.
(admittedly, I never used DnD beyond or MTG arena, but that’s mostly because I hate centralized web services. Shit feels like it always ends up like this)
First, we wanted the ability to prevent the use of D&D content from being included in hateful and discriminatory products.
I love the fact that they keep frontloading this, as if a single person criticizing the new OGL was saying “what if I want to make a racist D&D book?”
edit: anyway, the damage is frankly already done, no matter what Hasbro tries to claw back. Their biggest competitor is releasing a new license, which will be held by a neutral organization, which is going to be superior to what the OGL was already, much less the gimped version that WOTC intends to release next.
The real question is whether this saga will actually create a change in the market. I’m a bit cynical to the idea that everyone will suddenly switch to Pathfinder instead of D&D 6 - right now Pathfinder is only about 1/10th the size of D&D, and every other TTRPG barely shows up as a blip compared to those two, and I just don’t see the kind of seismic shift happening that would need to happen to break that status quo. Everyone publishing TTRPG materials will need to publish D&D materials in order to make money, which should force the OGL 1.1 to have a big install base even if it’s a reluctant one.
Pathfinder will get a bit of growth but it’s not positioned to be the lifeboat it was with 4E. Pathfinder 2E is a very different system with different design principles and you can’t convert characters from D&D like they could last time. The good news is that being its own thing will give it a much stronger position in the ensuing legal battles, but the drawback is that it’ll be harder to get people to switch.
If there’s going to be a system that emerges as a clear lifeboat, it’s probably one of the ones being developed in response to this happening.
Everyone publishing TTRPG materials will need to publish D&D materials in order to make money
you mean just 3rd party supplements?
Right yeah. Though I think it would be really funny if we saw the major 3rd party publishers do two things:
- Publish supplements for 🅱️ungeons & 🅱️ragons, which is legally distinct from that other game
- Publish supplements simultaneously for multiple systems, esp. if you’re primarily selling PDFs there’s no reason why you could have alternate versions with different game mechanics
silver lining:
hopefully this pushes people to play things other than 5e
