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Imagine, just imagine if Russia fucking nuked Ukraine using that same justification.

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Nazi Ukrainian conspiracy theorist: “They already did with Chernobyl!”

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Step away from the lathe.

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We’ll see how long the normal-ass people of Ukraine put up with that before they decide to tar and feather him.

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Reminder that nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was also done for the purpose of human experimentation, they used 2 different kinds of nuclear bombs and wanted to see if there was any difference in how they affected the human body

Even before absorbing the remnants of the axis after the war :amerikkka: was already just as evil as any of them

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As far as I understand, the difference in the two bombs was the just the detonation mechanism. One used a kind of gun and the other used implosion to unite the fissile materials. Richard Rhodes “the making of the atomic bomb” is also an excellent resource if your into more of the science

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Not human experimentation, but definitely weapons testing for yield.

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John Pilger’s The Coming War on China opens by demonstrating that the US intentionally irradiated the denizens of the Marshall Islands to see what radiation does to the human body.

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They didn’t even drop their ambiguous warning pamphlets on Nagasaki before it got nuked.

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Lmao “innocent people die in a war” as an excuse for committing warcrimes on a mass scale to purposefully make the “innocent people die in a war”, sentence everyone who survived the initial blast to a slow and painful death, and traumatize their descendents to this day.

On top of that “we killed more people when we firebombed another civilian population” as a justification for doing so. Holy shit.

Fucking philosopher king, genius amongst men. Americans who think like this should all be rounded up and shot like dogs.

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Yeah saying “nukes aren’t significantly more fucked up than normal war” is not a defense for nuking people

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“We’ve killed millions in other ways and those are fine so killing millions quickly is also fine!”

No mate, the firebombings weren’t justified either.

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Listen we may have killed a ton of innocent people, but you need to understand, we killed a ton of innocent people. Hope that clears things up.

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On top of that “we killed more people when we firebombed another civilian population” as a justification for doing so. Holy shit.

I tend to see that line more as observational than moral. As in “once we decided to invade the home islands we’d functionally ceded the assumption that killing 150,000 civilians in an aerial bombardment was going to be acceptable”. The tool we used was incidental relative to the need to slaughter Japanese civilians into subservience.

Americans who think like this should all be rounded up and shot like dogs.

We’re running into that paradox of tolerance with a statement like this. You kinda have to ask how many residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (nevermind Tokyo) would be glibly asserting “the Manchurians fucking deserved it” twenty years beforehand.

If we can assert that American civilians who can’t sympathize with Japanese civilians should be slaughtered, what do we think about Japanese civilians who thought the same of Koreans or Philippines or Vietnamese civilians? The justifications of violence never seem to end.

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Liberals be like “those 3 year olds deserved it”

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“We’ve done worse” isn’t a great defence.

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