I think the way Zapatistas didn’t let me bribe them to let me create an OSHA Exclusion Zone to open salt mines with imported slaves was pretty authoritarian.
and I left it at that :xi-lib-tears:
not leftists because they eat meat
A loud minority of this site genuinely believes that.
China needs to fix it’s revolution import-export balance. Currently the CIA is importing too much.
I think Xi is just telling us that he isn’t going to do all the work for us and we need to get things started in the imperial core before he can even think about helping
If we can get :amerikkka: to start balkanizing, I’m pretty sure he’d change his tune a bit
First, China does not export revolution;
Would be a lot cooler if it did tbh
If they’re not exporting revolution, that means we’ve gotta import it. I imagine once an official revolutionary movement exists in the west, certain media or government elements in China would offer support provided we’re on the ground putting the work in
I imagine desiring less wage labor, more centralized power for the explicit purpose of state activities like healthcare, environmental protection, foreign affairs, housing assurance, etc. is nice to have. However, asking any movement why isn’t not there yet, or at all, is like asking about the lack of carpeting in the house that you’re building. It’s like WERE NOT AT THAT POINT YET! You don’t just order a communism from Amazon. It’s not like every commune is supposed to be the same; that’s not even what Marxist theory asks for. The directive is to respond to your material conditions. NO BACKSEATING
It’s like WERE NOT AT THAT POINT YET!
I mean, at some point it just feels like a very Westernized wish-list anyway.
You’re talking about a population that’s functionally under siege by the Mexican state military, struggling to engage in productive trade with their neighbors so they can build up capital and modernize infrastructure, handling the steady flow of migrants fleeing violence south of their border, and basically just fighting every day to keep the lights on.
Then you have some cafeteria communist from Seattle wander by an internet chat forum to complain about the Zapatistas not having enough vegan dishes at their local Whole Foods.
This isn’t even a “We’re not at that point yet”. Its just folks couched in the imperial core lobbing criticisms at a community totally divorced from their Settler Colonialist lifestyle. Why not complain about their lack of HSR and over-reliance on fossil fuels, while you’re at it? How many carbon offsets have the Zapatistas purchased recently?
Meanwhile, they’re camped out in bunker-villages trying to maintain a steady supply of guns and ammo against the next wave of state military sponsored drive-bys and kidnappings.
Eloquently put. I may have revealed myself as unfamiliar with the Zapatistas. I understand and have close to my heart the idea that military conflict is ugly and incredibly grizzly. I wholeheartedly agree that it’s hard to think about purchasing carbon offsets while you’re trying to save someone’s son from dying on the front lines. For the context of people embroiled in conflict, perhaps “building a house” isn’t a comprehensive metaphor. All the same, amenities in the light of acknowledgement of our mutual humanity is presumably the endgame and, should they succeed in their struggle, the metaphorical house could have carpet installed at that point, but not while a bunch of woodpeckers and beavers are chewing at the foundation.
imagine criticizing the zapatistas instead of wishing them the best and supporting the product of their labor.
Zapatistas: ''we don’t fit into the modern traditional socialist definition"
still getting shit on by no grass touching mfs
