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This is why you don’t use real guns shooting blanks when CGI can replicate any sort of gun discharge.

We have had gas-powered guns to simulate recoil for training since the early 1900’s.

Add CGI and it looks flawless.

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Add CGI and it looks flawless

:doubt: :matt-jokerfied:

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Lol no. CGI guns are not flawless, not to mention it’s painstaking to get it to a ‘good’ quality

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It looks like crap in CGI. You have every actor giving their personal interpretation of a pew pew motion and some don’t pretend to have recoil at all. Then it just gives permission to continue to lower the production value until everything looks like a netflix teen drama.

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They suggested using a gas-powered gun which simulates recoil, the actors would not have to pretend to recoil

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:no-mouth-must-scream:🩸 :stalin-gun-1::matt-jokerfied:

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if the chain of custody was working correctly this wouldn’t have happened.

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We finally got Trump.

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I can’t even imagine what he’d be commenting on this if he were still on twitter.

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He is planning on coming back this spring/summer so buckle up.

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BaldLOSER hasn’t had a decent gig in years, hope you can direct a safer play in MAX PRISON Alec.

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Good call. When he tried to get out of responsibility by lying about not pulling the trigger, he lost any claim to it being an accident.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-rust-shooting-fired-pulling-trigger-fbi-report/story?id=88311336

Accidental discharge testing determined that the firearm used in the shooting – a .45 Colt (.45 Long Colt) caliber F.lli Pietta single-action revolver – could not have fired without the trigger being pulled, the FBI report shows.

With the hammer in the quarter- and half-cock positions, the gun “could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger,” the report stated.

With the hammer fully cocked, the gun “could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger while the working internal components were intact and functional,” the report stated.

Creating the conditions to murder someone, pointing a gun at them and pulling the trigger, :shocked-pikachu: when it kills them.

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CGI guns are the future. Even blanks have killed dozens of people over the years.

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Gun thats basically a shell + firecracker in the barrel, squibs for dude getting shot, fix the sound in post. It works, it looks better than digital, it’s safe enough and it’s cheap.

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Orange tipped ‘weapons’ should be used in any movie with a significant budget anyway. Easy enough to cgi it away.

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Wouldn’t it still be manslaughter even if it was an accident?

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It’s a blurry line for me in this case because it’s the same kind of thing as social murder. You’re intentionally creating the conditions for someone to die. He’s the producer trying to cheap out with scab labour, not checking the weapon from his discount gun contractor, and pulling the trigger the first time in the direction of another person. To me that’s second-degree murder more than it is manslaughter because he’s being negligent at multiple levels for profit.

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Baldwin was the producer of the movie on top of having done the actual shooting.

There was some union kerfuffle from what I remember, the union armorors were striking or protesting the safety standards on set. This was not the first accidental discharge on the set (there were 3 previous, they were blank. 2 times previous the actor handling the gun was told it was cold even though it had blanks - i.e. was told nothing was loaded but they were in fact loaded with blanks).

There shouldn’t be live armmo on a set. I don’t know why it was brought on. The scab armorers brought it on. I don’t remember their explanation but I remember thinking it was dumb as fuck.

Baldwin bears some responsibility for allowing safety to go so lax as producer. If you were just an actor and someone handed you a live gun, but you had every reason to think it was a prop gun that was not loaded with live ammo, you wouldn’t face a murder charge I don’t think- cause you’d have reasonably expected the armorer to ensure safety, you would’ve checked and seen it loaded but reasonably could have thought it was a blank or dummy. But Baldwin is in deeper shit cause he was in charge of armorers as the producer.

Edit: also, apparently the armorer previously had a discharge on a different movie that made Nicholas Cage walk off. I didnt hear the details.

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Baldwin bears some responsibility for allowing safety to go so lax as producer.

Sounds like he bears most of the responsibility, fuck him.

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Hiring the scab armorers makes him completely complicit lol. Real “Leopard bit my face”

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Live ammo was there for closeups with revolvers IIRC.

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lmao if you need to see the bullet you use a powderless dud wtf

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I thought I remember hearing some people just wanted to use the same guns to shoot for real during off-time.

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i also remember this

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:amerikkka-clap:

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Yes Baldwin the actor is innocent, Baldwin the producer is :porky-scared-flipped: :gulag:

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Rumor somewhere that he was framed because the day earlier he expressed support for unionization.

edit: the video seems to have been released several days before the shooting took place.

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Seems like the scab armourer was just a dumbass, but I like this theory.

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Is there a video mirror?

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