Good call. When he tried to get out of responsibility by lying about not pulling the trigger, he lost any claim to it being an accident.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-rust-shooting-fired-pulling-trigger-fbi-report/story?id=88311336
Accidental discharge testing determined that the firearm used in the shooting – a .45 Colt (.45 Long Colt) caliber F.lli Pietta single-action revolver – could not have fired without the trigger being pulled, the FBI report shows.
With the hammer in the quarter- and half-cock positions, the gun “could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger,” the report stated.
With the hammer fully cocked, the gun “could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger while the working internal components were intact and functional,” the report stated.
Creating the conditions to murder someone, pointing a gun at them and pulling the trigger, :shocked-pikachu: when it kills them.
It’s a blurry line for me in this case because it’s the same kind of thing as social murder. You’re intentionally creating the conditions for someone to die. He’s the producer trying to cheap out with scab labour, not checking the weapon from his discount gun contractor, and pulling the trigger the first time in the direction of another person. To me that’s second-degree murder more than it is manslaughter because he’s being negligent at multiple levels for profit.
CGI guns are the future. Even blanks have killed dozens of people over the years.
Gun thats basically a shell + firecracker in the barrel, squibs for dude getting shot, fix the sound in post. It works, it looks better than digital, it’s safe enough and it’s cheap.
Orange tipped ‘weapons’ should be used in any movie with a significant budget anyway. Easy enough to cgi it away.
LOCK HIM UP
everyone in this thread talking about blanks but apparently it was actual live ammo? holy hell
But the key question that remained unanswered was how live bullets found their way to the “Rust” set.
from what I heard they were hiring scabs because the people managing special effects were striking and the scab armourer apparently loaded in real ammunition instead of blanks and forgot to double check it and then Baldwin pulled the trigger thinking it had a blank in it and it happened to be pointing at someone
When this first broke I read that the armorer was basically taking the guns and doing target practice while not on set. Not sure if that was ever confirmed or not.
apparently that was the case. there is evidence that guns were taken and loaded with live rounds and used to shoot cans during free time. they also found live rounds on set, which is apparently something that is never supposed to happen according to industry people.
the “armorer” was also split across 2 roles and it was only their 2nd time in the role of armorer, though they seem to be a nepo baby and their father was a long time hollywood armorer.
so the armorer brought a gun with a live round to the set scene and said it was ready. the producer doing the final check at the table announced the gun as “cold” and therefore not loaded with anything that could fire (blanks or live rounds), and handed it to baldwin. and baldwin took it, holstered it, then practicing a draw that was meant to be aimed at a camera, shot and killed someone behind the camera. then everybody blamed everybody else, because apparently nobody did their job. multiple failures by different people is an institutional and cultural problem. and throw in the armorer said it was intentional sabotage.
when that all is included in with the IATSE union complaints, a strike threat over chaotic/unsafe conditions on that set and others the producers ran, a lot more needs to happen than criminal charges against baldwin and the armorer, but of course i don’t trust any criminal investigation agency within the US to actually go through this situation and assign proportional blame based on culpability.
holy shit. I haven’t been following the story that closely, but I remember when it first came out everyone was talking about how even blanks can still kill someone at close range. That’s fuckin insane. Personally I think Baldwin sucks as an actor and a dude, but that really does sound like he was set up.
Even blanks can kill. Firearms of any kind shouldn’t be on set.
EDIT: The bullets found their way on set because the idiot armorer brought them for the actors to shoot cans with.
We finally got Trump.
I can’t even imagine what he’d be commenting on this if he were still on twitter.
