What sources support that (besides Time Man Of The Year 1938)

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the US preferred the Axis to the Soviet Union, but strongly supported the UK over Germany.

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They also strongly favored the Republic of China over Japan.

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Iirc, one of the reasons for Pearl Harbor was the Oil embargo on Japan.

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Does “what no theory does to a motherfucker” apply here?

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That’s simply not true. The US began providing Lend-Lease aid to the USSR in 1941 before entering the war.

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I mean before the Nazis invaded the USSR. Public opinion was very anti-Soviet before then.

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Anti-Soviet, but still more anti-Nazi. Worth remembering that in the UK the populace was far and away supportive of close ties to the Soviets even after the Pact was signed. There was a downturn for the Winter War but then an uptick again. France however did go off the deep end.

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if the soviets didn’t want or appreciate the help they would not have accepted it.

theres a very long way from ‘the soviets would not have been defeated without lend-lease’ to ‘lend lease was meaningless’ and that distance is measured in tens of thousands of soviet lives

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Not

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I know some Germans in the US and some loud minorities like Henry Ford were pro-Axis, but I’m pretty sure general public support for the Axis wasn’t more than public support for the Allies.

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The Silver Legion was a real thing?

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Yes.

They are also featured in Paradox games in relation to fascist paths in both HoI4 (focus) and Vicky3(fascist party name) . For some reason.

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Isn’t there a game mod for Hearts of Iron where the Silver Legion can straight up conquer America and start WW2?

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I know literally nothing about this Mayor LaGuardia guy so I started reading the Wikipedia page for some idea of how out and out fascist he was and it seems like he did a bunch of public works but then also basically helped fundraise for Fascist Italy’s invasion of Ethiopia?

Also if I had a nickel for everytime MSG was used a venue for fascism, I’d have two nickels. Which is not a lot but it’s weird it happened twice. (MSG was for the American NAZI Rally and apparently also for the handover of the raised money at an Italian-American rally for the invasion of Ethiopia).

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former was a little less openly frothing but still very anti-left and pro-law and order

Fascist Italy was acceptable because its ambitions did not interfere with the French or British (or American) spheres. it was not the degree to which their methods upset libs stomachs, their repression of the left was absolutely fine to libs, and was not nicer than the Nazis.

the Nazis were of course much worse to many more groups than leftists, but that was not the reason the allies actually fought them

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