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This is the figure for the USA number. 1704 derailments a year.

This is the figure for the EU number. I appear to have remembered the exact number incorrectly. If you check the charts mentioned, which you will find for download here you can see that the average amount of train derailments per year in the EU from 2010-2021 is 81, with the highest number being 100 in 2013, and the lowest number 62 in 2016. The countries on record with the highest amount of derailments were the UK and Poland, so notably the rate of derailments dropped by 20% when the UK left. In the past couple of years, Poland got better and Turkey are the worst, Turkey counted for a bit over 1/3rd of the derailments in the dataset. I’m not sure why Turkey is included in this dataset in particular, I assume that its some sort of transportation law that makes them integrated. If you remove Turkey and the UK from the dataset entirely it comes out to 51 derailments on average per year over the past 10ish years. It should be noted that from 2006-2008 the EU+Turkey had around 420 derailments on average, by 2009 they halved it, and by 2010 it was dropped to 89.

I do remember diving into it at one point and also looked into China, which had similar rates to the EU, but slightly less. Which is impressive considering the size of their country.

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I do remember diving into it at one point and also looked into China, which had similar rates to the EU, but slightly less. Which is impressive considering the size of their country.

Well the EU+Turkey have ~220,000km of rail transport (the US has nearly exactly the same), China has 150,000km

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interesting deets, i suppose i greatly overestimated china’s rail capacity considering all the high speed development

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Well the EU has cities more spread out, while China has 95% of its population on the east coast so there’s a lot less rail in western parts

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It’s insane that America has the most rail of any country in the world, yet I’ve literally never been on a train. Only been to bars that inhabit old passenger stations sitting on lines that now run coal and industrial chemicals to the privately owned weapon manufacturing plant and power station.

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last wedding i went to, some guests said they took a train instead of a plane, they said it was less expensive than plane but took more days so the cost of food put the trip above a plane trip

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notably the rate of derailments dropped by 20% when the UK left

the EU built back better

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So much for “YOU CAN’T USE A TRAGEDY TO PUSH AN AGENDA!”

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The NHS bullshit hurts the poor the most, but the US cutting safe and efficient infrastructure will really fuck things up.

We’ve already had supply chain issues, and then :ever-given: and nearly collapsed when people panicked and hoarded resources. Cutting back on US railroads will fuck with rich people too. How do they not see it?

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Cutting back on US railroads will fuck with rich people too. How do they not see it?

Wanted to make a snarky joke about the inherent contradictions of capitalism and the falling rate of profit, but instead I’ll just say that the people who make this decision (cost-cutting and gutting services to the point where they fail more often than not) are not the same people as who will be hurt financially when a disaster strikes. So while Norfolk Southern being starved to death by its own executives will hurt the entire capitalist class, it will also juice the shit out of their returns for the next couple of years before all the deferred maintenance really starts to kick in, and the executives don’t really plan for that, since they intend to leave the railroad after their brief stay led to a ballooning stock price, another company is surely going to offer them a nice, cushy, low effort position.

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:porky-happy: is incapable of thinking more than 3 months ahead

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It really is that simple, isn’t it?

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By balloon, perhaps?

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Osama chemical-Laden

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lmao and we’ve already got a truck spill post

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i did a lathening

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Could you lathe good things?

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