I accidentally saw some episodes of the office. Michael Scott and Dwight are more reactionary than I originally remembered. Just small details, but also the character’s personalities.

I just get a lot of vibes like, the writers thought “History has ended” but seeing this stuff later in life I know for a fact history comes back for season 2.

I’ve noticed things and gotten the vibe from other old TV shows, too.

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Men in Black, at least, was directly playing in to the Men in Black mythology that inspired the story; Faceless government agents in ill fitting suits doing spooky stuff. Like that’s not the subtext that is the text.

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Meanwhile they were far more ethically vague in the comics. J neuralizes a kid who saw a vampire and tells him to become a clock tower shooter when he’s over 18.

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It’s such a gen X “caring is for nerds” ideological lens. Could not have existed anywhere but the 80s-90s and carried through once they got jobs.

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Michael is offensive but mostly as a result of being aloof and stupid and self assured. Dwight on the other hand is just a failed fascist lol

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I feel like the early seasons of the office were good, while the later seasons removed all tension from the office life.

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For the Office I’m thinking about that diversity training episode (I do think they moved Michael away from that trope as the show moved on)

The 1st season specifically was a lot more like the British original with Ricky Gervais in the lead role. That didn’t do so well with US audiences so they took a lot of the edge out of it in later seasons. They made Michael Scott much more likable, still frequently ignorant and selfish but nothing compared to Ricky Gervais’ character in the original who has 0 redeeming qualities.

Imo it was a good decision for the US version, Steve Carrell is just a really likable guy while Ricky Gervais is much, much easier to hate (even if you ignore his off-screen antics). I liked season 2-4 more than season 1 for that reason.

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Yeah it’s honestly a trip watching stuff you enjoyed when you were younger and going :stalin-bummed: when it turns out to be flaming hot garbage.

Like I remember seeing a lot of shitty shows and really enjoy watching them with my dad when i was really young. Shows like ‘revenge of the nerds’, ‘national lampoon: Christmas vacation’, 'animal houses, or ‘apocalypse now’ and the few I rewatched out of nostalgia made me straight up :cringe: and say “wtf is wrong with these people”. Honestly now that I think about it I think trying to rewatch things I remembered I enjoyed and ending up disappointed actually motivated me to stop watching T.V alltogether.

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national lampoon: Christmas vacation

I rewatch this with family every year, IMO it’s one of the ones that’s held up - mostly because it’s all about the absurdity of middle class American traditions, instead of being super racist or misogynist or whatever else.

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Its got Chevy Chase though

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Apocalypse Now is good. What?

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Martin sheen survived his drug trip and the French in the movie didn’t get their estate burnt to the ground.

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Martin Sheen wasn’t drug trip guy, the French estate scene is also only in the redux version. The rest of the list makes sense but I really don’t get how Apocalypse Now doesn’t hold up.

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The mixup I’ve seen people have is all the pro America parody’s of the “ride of the Valkyrie”scene that have been created since then, but I thought having the Americans attack to Wagner gave away the whole “we are the baddies” .

Great movie, descent into madness caused by the horror of Americas war.

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Especially because Killgore spells it out in dialogue and his name is Killgore.

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As a lib I enjoyed Vietnam War movies, as a commie I can’t stand them, unless they’re from the Vietnamese perspective.

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Any suggestions for Vietnam war movies from the Viet perspective?

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That’s very categorical of you. I’m sure Ho would be stoked.

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I watched a stream play 2005 footage from G4 and it gave me war flashbacks. The 2000’s were the cultural cringe decade

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I don’t remember much of gaming culture before like 2007, when it started to get all ninja monkey chainsaw and the cake is a lie. What was the vibe in 2005, weird forced nationalism and :awooga:?

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Lil’ Bush was a show that received at least two seasons.

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