Help me settle a bet plz

I voted 6 because to my mind being a man everything I do and am is what a man does and is

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30 points

We stan a tautological king 👑👑👑

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19 points

Hell yeah Brother

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Yeah like I’ve defined my own masculinity, so I’m pretty cool w my gender.

If masculinity is 2000-2008 male gender tho, then I’d probably be a 4 or 5.

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Oh yeah see, this is why I put 5. Still feel like nail polish (black even!) is so taboo

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My comrade, we must praise the emo vanguard for normalizing that.

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4 points

The macho man has cried and thousand times and he’ll probably cry some more. He’s flown with the eagles and slithered with the snakes and been just about everyplace in-between. Oh yeah brother

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33 points

I’ve never felt like I’m anything but what was assigned at birth. On the other hand I’m still not sure I understand what a gender is supposed to be. What is a “man?” What is a “woman?” Can any of you define those things? Because I sure can’t.

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Think about the first time you heard your voice recorded. It probably felt wrong and you probably felt some sort of discomfort. There was nothing wrong with your voice. It’s how everyone else heard you all the time. But you heard it and you expected to hear yourself and you heard something that was just… off.

That experience, the experience of misaligned identity, isn’t something that can be recognized by analyzing the formants or resonance of your voice. It’s not a property of the voice. You might be able to pull apart the frequencies between a bone mic recording and a room mic recording of you saying the same thing and see what makes the resonance different. But the experience exists subjectively. You couldn’t look at a frequency and say, “that’s the one that made me anxious”

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Actually I’ve never had that recording discomfort. My voice sounds different from inside than from outside just like everyone else’s, but it has never sounded ‘wrong’ to me. Though I get that’s a very common experience and understand where you’re coming from.

That doesn’t really get me any closer to understanding what a man is supposed to be.

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10 points

Dammit, and that’s the first time I used that analogy too. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help

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This is pretty much where I’m at.

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5 points

I am also comfortable being a man, but I get along better with women on average and often get perplexed at “lad” behaviour when I encounter other men.

So I put a 4. I am a man, but not masculine in the way that my environment is. Never really had a male role model either, so I guess that is part of it.

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13 points

:yea:

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14 points

I just wanted to see how cis cis was

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Lot of 5’s.

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23 points

Me and the 5s holding it down :five-heads:

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I was like how the fuck does someone just have that emote on lock but then I saw it

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14 points

If you imagine these as places, 6-land, especially masculine 6-land, is pretty bleak. Lots of sports bars and sports cars. Do I, a cis man, have to have some degree of identification with an abstract notion of womanhood to merit citizenship in 5-land or can I at least get a tourist visa because I see the extremes of dudebroness and can say that I’m at least 20% not-that?

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12 points

This is where I’m at too. I feel like a man pretty thoroughly but the far end of that masc spectrum is so unappealing to me. I’m just a dude being bro, I don’t care for many traditionally masculine things, I’m a goddamn nerd and I like it that way

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