Whole post is dogshit, but Lemmygrad is the only sizeable instance blocked on beehaw, so I can’t help but assume this is mostly addressed about us:
Some of the instances that we have chosen to defederate with have explicit political stances and ideologies. Their political stance and ideology had nothing to do with the choice to defederate. The choice to defederate was based on the amount of hate speech present on the instance and/or explicitly endorsing it
Our admins ban all bigotry, and are extremely quick to ban them, so this is complete bullshit. In addition per @CriticalResist8 , they originally claimed that they blocked us because we were too active and filling up their disk space (spoiler: they were just incompetent, it was just log files they weren’t deleting). I hate these smug, weaselly little liars dude :hasan-smash:
Also, the comments complaining about the lemmy devs again. Please, I beg you, switch to kbin you fucking losers. The devs never should have helped your bum asses out. They offer free hosting, put your server in reccomended (and in fact were only 1 of 2 in the recommended section for a long time!), basically bend over backwards to accommodate you and all you can think of is “muh evil tankies”
hate speech is wishing a very death to slave owners
I think what really irks me about the Free Speech Absolutists is how they’re obviously full of shit, and they’re not fooling anyone, but they just can’t bring themselves to just say it. “We blocked them because they’re commies, and we hate commies. That’s all. Go use a different site if you don’t like it.” Pathetic.
to be absolutely fair to beehaw, they don’t claim to be free speech absolutists. In all honesty, you could argue that lemmygrad does violate their whole philosophy of “being nice”. We aren’t always going to be nice, especially when some hapless liberal starts spewing racism or anticommunism. But that’s not what is written here. They’re accusing us of hate speech, not “being mean”
They literally think it’s the same thing:
Beehaw does not tolerate hate speech. Beehaw is an explicitly safe space. We center and promote kindness because that is what we see and love in the world.
Their idea of safe spaces is not able to account for existing power dynamics if they insist on civility above all else. It’s literally not a safe space. But it is a space that the privileged leadership can label as safe for the sake of their own affirmation.
We are also blocked by beehaw so that means they are also calling us a hatespeech site
they preblocked you??? :NOOOOO:
I wonder if that means they’ve been monitoring lemmygrad and/or hexbear to see that y’all are close to being able to federate. I hope their admin sees this
yep hexbear was blocked by the cowards at beehaw
Holy shit some of the things on that blocklist are AWFUL. Can we censor our eventual Blocklist so I never need to be reminded that some of that garbage exists?
The people at beehaw would claim :anti-cracker-aktion: makes us racist. Probably the same logic they’re using internally for lemmygrad tbf, white fragility.
It’s true. I posted a requisitioned video from Hexbear that stated that “no act against [bigots] is wrong”. Days later and it’s still up. What is this if not hate speech towards bigots? :centrist:
Lol beehaw is not going to be around very long if they’re already planning on forking.
to be fair, it’s more the userbase than the admins, but their admins are basically saying “we would if we could!”, so unfortunately they’re not quite that delusional (yet)
It still shows they have no idea what they’ve gotten themselves into. They let their users spin up ridiculous conspiracy theories about the authors of the software their brand new site relies on, and have generally alienated themselves from anybody who has had a hand in developing or operating it over the past 3 years. Anything they try to do to mend these relationships will only alienate their users. They are basically trapped in a very miserable place.
They don’t even have a coherent reason to fork. Didn’t hexbear fork back in the day because lemmy at the time had zero moderation tools & was refusing to even accept PRs for them?
