Iām late to the party, but I wanted to remind everybody that The Forever War exists, with explicitly gay characters, to which Heinlein said, āmay be the best future war story Iāve ever read!ā
Go suck it, Brianna. What a disappointment you turned out to be.
Heinlein also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is about a bunch of hippies living together in a commune fighting against an oppressive state and wining.
I think calling Starship Troopers āfascist source materialā is a bit reductive. Heinlein was exploring some ideas, not trying to make an argument for ideals. He had some issues, definitely, but just pointing to it and saying āfascist!ā ignores a TON of context.
She must identify the fascist society of Starship troopers with Israel and then work backwards to justify how thatās good and not how Zionism is obviously evil.
Media anti-analysis levels:
- Itās a movie about a guy who does some stuff.
- The film maker and his friends were just having fun with a camera, but also death of the author so we can stop talking about this
- Do people really derive meaning from random assemblages of pixels on a screen? You will not find happiness there, nor hope
- I have only known shadows on this cave wall
āGoddamned communistā
How many primary victims of Gamergate eventually go to join their side?
Iāve literally seen a few clips of the starship troopers movie and the satire is incredibly obvious. Is media literacy really that bad now?
We just had Hulk Hogan unironically mime Idiocracy at the Republican national convention.
Whenever you wonder, ācan republicans really be this dumb?ā Just expect the answer to go even lower.
So yes, of course, Starship Troopers is about society loyally defending itself from Gutians to these people.
Most people do know it was satire (as you said itās really obvious) but yeah, every few days in entirely unrelated place i read some dumbass that donāt get it and love it, so there must be quite a lot of them.
The movie is satire. The book isnāt satire, the boko is just heinlein wanking off about āgoodā fascism.
I saw it for the first time during the Bush admin and it wasnāt clear to me that it was satire. More like āI hope this is satire.ā
The movie is different from the book tho. The movie is practically a parody of a war movie that makes fun of Earthās hyper-militaristic and fascist government. The aliens are insect like and more savage and are just defending themselves against some stupid humans.
In the book, the aliens are much more humanoid and are a rival hypermilitaristic empire that is fighting against the humans, who are also hypermilitaristic, but good, because the creator was a fascist weirdo. There is also a second faction of aliens in the books who switch sides to help the humans after their capital is bombed.
The movie is different from the book tho.
This is underselling it, IIRC Verhoeven claims to have read like 3 pages before saying it was garbage and that he was going to do his own thing.
I think Verhoeven had already another script ready and he mixed it with some stuff from the books. He also produced a 3d cartoon named Roughnecks Starship Troopers Chronicles which adds more stuff from the books.
