Is it bad to say that I genuinely hate liberals more than the far right
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”
- MLK, Letter from a Birmingham Jail
This is a great quote, it has been some time since I read up on MLK so I forgot who had said it. I agree with it completely.
Nope. Not at all; in fact, I’d say that means you have a working sense of indignance and contempt because cracker democrats will smile in your face as they try and cudgel a vote out of you. The real sickening part is the moment it processes that their approach doesn’t and will not work on you? That’s when they get more hateful, more racist, more -phobic than the far right.
If you’re Black, they’ll tell you that not voting for them is a vote for everyone you love getting put up a tree by ‘Trumpers’. When more than half of the dead Black martyrs over the last fifteen years have been slabbed out by Northerner cops in supposedly-Democrat cities; when it’s been Democrats funnelling PDs military surplus via 1033, when it’s been Democrats drafting up the plans for Cop Cities in the first place.
If you’re any kind of Middle-eastern, bc trust, these crackers can’t tell the difference, they’ll invoke the subway attacks and random shootings that settlers keep orchestrating on ANYONE they think is Palestinian.
If you’re any kind of LGBTQ, they’ll invoke Project 2025 and breathlessly pearlclutch about how you’ll lose everything the movement has gained if you don’t support their genocide, because no one in the middle east has your rights like you do right here. Despite western Pride both not being a necessity to the outer world, AND already having been pinkwashed by cops and corporates thanks to the weak-link white gays to the point that if you look just across the pond at blahaj.zone, they’re already eagerly slobbing on Democrat low quarters and we’re only halfway through August.
And then, after all that, if their cudgeling still doesn’t work? That’s when they wish everything they just said on you directly, like some kind of peckerwood malediction. At least a fascist won’t try to present himself as a friend just to take the mask off when it’s clear I’m not buying what he’s selling.
Thank you for typing this up. This is essentially my belief system but I couldn’t be bothered writing it all down. The liberals I have known have done nothing but throw me under the bus at every opportune moment while still pretending to be my friend or care about my people.
The enemy that tells you to your face they want to kill you is better than the enemy that smiles at you while sliding a knife into your back.
At least the fash is honest about being pieces of shit. Liberals wants you to pretend they’re the good guys.
(CW gross shit) its Political Nice Guyism. They wanna pretend they care soo much, and things will be better under them I promise, and how could we not want to vote for such nice progressive people like them??
But then when you tell them you won’t support genocide? They take the mask off. “That’s fine that you’re too stupid to know what’s good for you, I hope Trump throws you in a camp you ugly bitch”
And when they do get in, they’re all jumping over themselves to libsplain to you why they’re doing Jack shit about those progressive noises they made during the campaign: “now is not the time”, “but the national credit card”, “but the terror threat”, “but their legitimate concerns” or they pull out some teeny-tiny little token improvement, the 1% that separates 99% Hitler from 100% Hitler, and want you to be impressed that they made a plan for making 20% of the food served to children in concentration camps organic by 2075.
I mean, you can vote for a lesser evil and also work on changing the system entirely so that it’s not evil any more.
No, you can’t. The Amerikan political system is hardened and inured against actions from the inside, otherwise tHe SqUaD would’ve actually been able to do something with their tenures that wasn’t “get their numbers slashed by half by the time 2024 rolled around”, and the Black Misleadership Cabal-- I mean, the Congressional Black Caucus wouldn’t be shucking, jiving, stepping, and fetching for the peckerwood democrats.
You a goddamn lie.
How do you propose we change the system entirely? Nobody here is suggesting not doing anything.
Voting gives away the only actual legal leverage you have (outside of donations, which AIPAC can outspend you on seeing the U.S. literally ships the money that gets funded right back to them).
If you vote for them while they are actively in the middle of commiting a genocide, then you have exactly zero principles outside of 'Well I’ve got mine." Well done, you’ve reinvented libertarianism.
So, what’s your plan for reforming Nazi Germany from within? By the way, should we vote for Goebbels or Himmler?
like I said in other comments, I’m not saying you should only try changing the system from within. voting doesn’t take a lot of time though, and I don’t see why you shouldn’t use the methods within the system to try to make it get shitty less quickly while ALSO trying to change the system in other ways. unless you’re an accelerationist I guess. I don’t see any harm in voting for the lesser evil as long as you don’t use it as an excuse to not also do other stuff. you can do both, and I’m worried that people that act like it’s either or might make things worse than they’re already going to be.
I don’t see any harm
Did you see the part of the tweet where a whole extended family was killed? They’re doing a genocide
But the system is set up in a way that all votes for third party get discarded.
the non libs should do whatever they do AND vote though. there’s no harm in voting for the lesser evil if you don’t use it as an excuse to not also do other things.
You stupid motherfuckers fucking giving legitimacy to the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie by participating in its elections, giving direct sanction to our ruling class, makes it almost impossible to fucking do anything, you dumb piece of shit
You put us in a position where violent revolution is the only option to cause real change, but you’re the same dumb fucks who cheer and oink as the cops murder us, so thanks for nothing, fucker
This argument is only somewhat valid if you agree that there is a lesser evil between the two, we don’t agree with that, that’s what you peoples don’t understand about our position.
None of you have ever provided any evidences that the Democrats are less bad than the Republicans, not a single one of you ever did. You just accept it as true without questions.
One of the big “reasons to vote for Biden” was because he wasn’t Trump and it would be a return to “normal”.
Then the 2024 election got closer and everybody forgot that Biden was just supposed to be a place holder and started crowing about how he’s the “greatest most progressivest president evah!” when he absolutely wasn’t. The Dems and their supporters decided that “no, because Biden won the 2020 election it was ACTUALLY because everybody was voting FOR Biden instead of AGAINST Trump” and got all butt hurt when people pointed out that “maybe the Dems should have spent 4 years getting a better candidate ready to run for President with a D by their name in 2024” because Biden kinda sucks.
So, no, voting “just to vote” isn’t something that is a zero sum game. If you are voting for a candidate that you don’t want to win to try to keep some other candidate from winning, the only thing that the candidate sees is that somebody voted for them. Once they win, they don’t need to listen to you anymore.
there’s no harm in voting for the lesser evil
The USian Dem party is not a lesser evil. It’s the same as the other part of your uniparty, except that it pretends to be different from its twin.
Hell, Trump seems to be more senile and less capable of running your genocide machine than Harris. I don’t see you call everyone to vote for him for the sake of burying the settler-colonial project earlier and reducing harm this way.
There is harm in voting it legitimizes the system. We want the evil empire to die, why should we bow to its customs?
well, do you think libs seeing tweets like this will go do stuff? or do you think they’ll just do even less and not even vote? I also dislike how this narrative discourages people that aren’t libs from voting. you can change the system and also go vote once every 4 years, they are not mutually exclusive. my comment was more aimed at the users of this community than the libs
“You people who hate the evil empire should participate in the ritual that legitimizes the evil empire”
Liberals, every time
It’s the lesser evil if you live in the imperial core, otherwise it’s just intersectional war crimes
I have seen a flood of liberal vomit for months now. Its just so gross. Here’s an example :
They never did. Some of these bring up other genocides to say that people are ignoring other genocides. As if they know even a single thing about any ongoing genocide. Its very brazen.
