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- Marx is absolutely open to critique, as to date Marxism and all derivative schools of thought have failed to produce socialism in the Global North. It’s a science, which means adapting methods to changing conditions and the results of experiments. It’s not religious dogma.
- You know who “[took] the good bits of Marxism” and adapted it to the specific conditions in their country? Lenin, Mao, etc.
- When someone starts an explicitly socialist media operation – something that pipelines people left and provides the sort of media infrastructure that is incredibly useful for any modern political movement – the criticisms of that person should be more sophisticated than “he wears ascots” or “he went to a good law school” or “the only possible way someone could disagree with Marx is if they haven’t read Marx.”
bullying NJR for being a fancy lad and not reading Marx is a meme
Doesn’t seem like it is for some folks on here, and we all know how memes get turned into “this, but unironically,” too. If we want to create a pipeline to the left, we should be generally treating people like him a lot more generously than we treat chuds. I see very little of that here despite the significant value NJR creating a socialist media outlet.
Can our end goal be achieved by liberal reformism and educating libs? I guess NJR wants to find out, but I prefer Marx’s analysis and think it’s more correct.
The near-term answer is to try both and see which works best. But we can critique one approach without glomming on to whichever school we disagree with; that’s just sectarianism.
The actual article is in fact very much pro-Marx until last 2 paragraphs
I don’t see what are the gains of disavowing Marx and marxist orgs… full on condemnation
Which is it? This is what I mean when I say I don’t believe “lol fancy lad sucks” is a entirely a meme. It constantly bleeds over into “this guy hates Marx, let’s get him,” which – as you said – is not actually what the guy believes. We should do people on our side the courtesy of addressing what they’re actually saying.
I’m not saying that NJR is an FBI agent. But I do think that if the FBI wanted to design someone in a lab to repel any actual workers away from the left; it would be a Yale Law educated journalist, who larps as a Dandy, with a fake British accent, who spends his time critiquing the revolutionary theory that is historically most successful in overthrowing the Bourgeoise.
My point is that Nathan J Robinson definitely receives cheques every week sent from the J. Edgar Hoover Building .
- Refuse to read any books
- Write a book refuting things you refused to read
Who the fuck is the audience for this? “Dead white men” liberals?
He’s right folks.
