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He’s right folks.
- Marx is absolutely open to critique, as to date Marxism and all derivative schools of thought have failed to produce socialism in the Global North. It’s a science, which means adapting methods to changing conditions and the results of experiments. It’s not religious dogma.
- You know who “[took] the good bits of Marxism” and adapted it to the specific conditions in their country? Lenin, Mao, etc.
- When someone starts an explicitly socialist media operation – something that pipelines people left and provides the sort of media infrastructure that is incredibly useful for any modern political movement – the criticisms of that person should be more sophisticated than “he wears ascots” or “he went to a good law school” or “the only possible way someone could disagree with Marx is if they haven’t read Marx.”
bullying NJR for being a fancy lad and not reading Marx is a meme
Doesn’t seem like it is for some folks on here, and we all know how memes get turned into “this, but unironically,” too. If we want to create a pipeline to the left, we should be generally treating people like him a lot more generously than we treat chuds. I see very little of that here despite the significant value NJR creating a socialist media outlet.
Can our end goal be achieved by liberal reformism and educating libs? I guess NJR wants to find out, but I prefer Marx’s analysis and think it’s more correct.
The near-term answer is to try both and see which works best. But we can critique one approach without glomming on to whichever school we disagree with; that’s just sectarianism.
The actual article is in fact very much pro-Marx until last 2 paragraphs
I don’t see what are the gains of disavowing Marx and marxist orgs… full on condemnation
Which is it? This is what I mean when I say I don’t believe “lol fancy lad sucks” is a entirely a meme. It constantly bleeds over into “this guy hates Marx, let’s get him,” which – as you said – is not actually what the guy believes. We should do people on our side the courtesy of addressing what they’re actually saying.
Pounded in the butt by Marx’s ghost
