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yeah they love their thought-terminating cliches so much. most of them are so tied up in their self-congratulatory liberalism that they dont want an honest discussion with us. good faith “progressives” will eventually find their way to socialism, but the people of blahaj seem to be primarily middle class white liberals, so staying federated with them wouldnt be of much use to us. defederating probably brought more ppl here than months of federation would have.

it is a shame that these two large queer communities had to split. but, as a trans femme, my advocacy for liberation does not end with LGBTQ folks and women. we must fight for liberation of all workers, and that means we must fight for racial liberation, indigenous liberation, liberation of the neurodiverse and disabled, women’s liberation, LGBTQ liberation, national liberation, religious liberation etc.

one cannot support Ukraine in this conflict and be absolutely intersectional. hell, a queer instance should have plenty of criticism of Ukraine and NATO. but no, western media says Ukraine is heckin wholesome smol bean democracy, and they never lie! that is why we are incompatible w blahaj. they cant even manage to avoid supporting nazis who are killing us queer people and conducting several ethnic cleansing and genocide campaigns. they say “banderites arent nazis, bandera is all abt national pride” ignoring the historical fact that bandera was a nazi collaborator, while simultaneously spreading the Holocaust revisionist “double genocide theory” that was invented by nazis. they make excuses for Ukrainian soldiers sporting black suns, SS insignia, and swastika.

but we at hexbear are the real fascists! sure. i love my hexbear. we practice left unity and are legitimately safe for our trans members (i.e. NO CHASERS)

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If being pro-Russia means that you think a Russian victory in Ukraine is preferable to an American one, both for the people living in the former Ukrainian SSR and in a wider geopolitical perspective then I’m pro-Russia.

If being pro-Russia means that you think Russia is an amazing place to live and that everything the Russian government does is good and based then no, I’m not pro-Russian by any stretch of the imagination. Those reactionary shitstains has little to be proud of.

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Why are we feeling that a Russian victory in Ukraine is preferable? I had heard a Belarusian anarchist fighter reach the exact opposite conclusion:

If Russia wins here, there will be no independent trade unions, no human rights organizations, no grassroots structures for self-defense against the arbitrary rule of officials and the police. […] There are no other options but armed resistance to the fascist regime that attacked Ukraine today. And you have to understand that today’s war in Ukraine opens up a huge field of opportunity for anarchists which is important not to miss. For the first time in almost 100 years, we can now create a major political-military organization. […] We are well aware that after the war, we will have clashes with the ultra-right, and with the state, which will attack the freedom and rights of the people. We understand very well that in the future the experience we will gain here, these structures, which we have to create here now, will be useful to us in our further struggle for a free Ukraine. […] Another path awaits us - a dangerous path, full of compromise, full of pain in suffering and loss. But it is a path that can lead us to the emergence of a new, powerful, liberating movement, which can then change the whole picture in the region, later in Europe, and maybe in the whole world. […] The last thing I want to say is to appeal to our Western comrades: we don’t need your westsplaing, we need your solidarity.

Which seems like pretty persuasive reasoning to me.

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Can you break down the reasoning for me? I just read the paragraph and all I can pull from it is they think Russia is fascist and that’s why they need to help their own fascists fight back, plus an acknowledgement that if they win they will be fighting Ukrainian fascists afterwards. Doesn’t seem like a very persuasive reason to help the fascists in the first place, particularly when Russia itself is extremely harsh on real fascists while Ukraine has never even attempted to do so and even today glorifies their fascist history.

edit: also I think it’s always important to remember that this war’s basic outcome has been clear from day one - Ukraine does not have the ability to prevent Russia from holding any territory they want. Fighting that inevitability doesn’t seem very good or humanitarian.

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Ukraine already killed, arrested, or drove into hiding all the ukrainian leftists

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How dare you talk to these pro-putin ruzzian tankie shill bot fascists??

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We are “pro-Russia” as far as anti-Ukraine = pro-Russia. Which is to say not really, but libs see it that way.

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exactly.
if/when people ask “do you actually support ukraine or russia?” here and mean it in good faith, I swear most answers line up with “both are cappie fash shitholes, we only support the working class of both countries and want them to stop fucking dying”

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Libs literally view the world in G.W. Bush “If you are not with us you are against us” style thinking you find in popular children’s fiction.

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Complete uncritical support for Владимир Владимирович Путин against НАТО :07:

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Mfs really be naming their kids “Vladimir Vladimirson”

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i dont know what this means but i agree

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we need to get the moscow time back in the sidebar

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they will literally just say anything about us. like, if you go to the_donald or /pol/, you can tell they are bigoted because they are saying slurs or barely disguised slurs, calling people r***rded, gay, “low IQ”, groomer, etc., talking about defending The West or a future for white children.

here, somehow, the bigotry apparently exists in some kind of mysterious non-corporeal state that cannot be pointed to.

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Oh, it’s here, you just have to BELIEVE :spongebob-hands-waving:

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If you go on /pol/, you can tell they are bigoted because they are fascists. If you go on communist lemmy, you can instead tell they are communists.

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if_those_kids_could_read.png

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You may laugh at them but these fine gentlepeople represent the current dominant economic system that managed to crush it’s opposition with sheer efficiency and might. Not so amused now, are you, fake tankies.

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