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I was actually pretty frusterated with Chomsky’s take here. Do you want your grand children to have a future? How is a Biden presidency or any other democrat going to be substantially different on global warming? The IPCC report lays it out pretty clearly, we have 10 years to half GLOBAL emissions to stay under 2 degrees, that still involves mass displacement, crop death, extreme weather and massive species loss. That’s the good scenario, that’s if we move on a level never before seen right now.

There is not difference in saying “I don’t believe in global warming” and “We plan to be carbon neutral by 2050”. It’s both climate denial because we end up in the same place with the world turning into a cinder.

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I think his take was that voting does nothing anyways and you should vote for the least terrible option that can actually win because it makes activism marginally less impossible.

I think there are merits to the argument, but I’m not sure if I’m convinced that Biden makes activist efforts even marginally easier.

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I don’t buy that at all unfortunately, I think if anything it’s going to make it harder because establishments Dems are going to steer even harder into “See our way works!” and then proceed to lose everything in 2022 and probably 2024 and ignore the left the whole time.

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The difference between the climate-crisis vs your run-of-the-mill fascism is that the global climate crisis is going to cause mass migration and overall social unrest regardless the milquetoast policy band-aids proposed by democrats. A republican fascist will simply ignore the left and stoke the flames of nationalism and use the existing gears of climate collapse to usher in an age of eco-fascism. A Democrat, on the other hand, will be forced to confront the social unrest that is already baked in to the equation. The “let’s go to brunch” crowd will not be able to sit this one out, because the skies will turn blood-red and the atlantic ocean will be in the living rooms of those who would otherwise be politically complacent. Tuning-out is no longer an option.

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I definitely see a set of circumstances where it does good and a set where it doesn’t.

I think normie wealthy dems going back to brunch as a good thing, but I think the politicians won’t especially be easy to work with by any means.

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Yeah this is all operating under the assumption that trump and Biden are going to handle the protests differently.

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To be fair, I think both parties have recognized at this point that we’ve moved beyond any sort of austerity politics. Even if they try attacks in that area, I just don’t think they’ll stick like they did 10 years ago.

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Wish they would move beyond actual austerity. Here comes President Tom Cotton 2024.

“ Former Delaware Sen. Ted Kaufman, a Biden confidant who succeeded him in the Senate, predicted during a Wall Street Journal Newsmakers Live interview Tuesday that a large increase in federal spending would be difficult to achieve in 2021.

“When we get in, the pantry is going to be bare,” said Mr. Kaufman, who is leading Mr. Biden’s transition team. “When you see what Trump’s done to the deficit…forget about Covid-19, all the deficits that he built with the incredible tax cuts. So we’re going to be limited.””

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/08/biden-democratic-national-convention-austerity

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Yeah Chomsky, pro-fracking Biden is totally going to save the planet. :agony-consuming:

He’s 100% in denial about how bad shit is going to get because he’ll be dead before he has to deal with it.

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But Biden will reenter the (non-binding) Paris climate agreements and we can all go to lunch!

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Then I can go home after working all day to watch SNL do a skit on how Biden is like my goofy uncle!

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Let’s be honest. Americans have completely fucked the plant wrt climate change. As much as I wish the GND was a thing we were going to do (or, fuck it, even carbon taxes would be acceptable at this point - just fucking do anything at all) it’s abundantly clear that Congress is useless, Corporate America is preparing a generational cash-and-dash, and the Chuds will literally kill you if you say they can’t roll coal. It’s out of our hands. President Bernie might have bent the curve a little more than a Trump or a Biden, but not nearly enough to save the planet.

China, India, Germany, Brazil, the African Union? Good luck, mates. I’d say we did the best we could, but… obviously, we did not.

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can someone please help my man groom a bit here i know he’s old but there’s no reason to let him go around looking like he got stranded in some uninhabited island wtf…

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Now that education has transitioned to a primarily remote and online format, my man Noam can finally let loose his inner monke.

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For real. I know he’s like 100 but he actually looks like he’s about to croak.

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Nah my man Noam looks extra sexy with the beard, we should email him to find answers to the debate around if his beard makes him sexier.

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Noam helping solve climate change by shooting everyone in the dick

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:gui-trans: but its :ak47:

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Don’t sell Biden short. He loves those drone strikes as much as Trump, Obama, and Bush ever did.

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