Just spoke to my mom who is a centrist liberal and never talks to me about politics. she said “I don’t think I’m going to be voting. I feel sick to my stomach about both these two.”

Two of the easiest elections in the history of this country and the dems just blew em both.

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I think the anti-Trump vote barely existed in 2016, it exists now. So Biden could still pull it off, he is still favored IMO.

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Wasn’t Hillary’s whole campaign anti-Trump and girl bosses who were anti-Trump anyways?

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Yes, but there wasn’t much of an anti-Trump vote in swing states. The people who hated both candidate hugely split for Trump and won him the election. It will be the opposite this time.

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I don’t trust people to vote for a candidate because they don’t like the other one. I’ve never seen it be a winning strategy.

Either way we will continue to take it to the streets and fuck the police.

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The difference is that in 2016 Trump didn’t have a terrible 4 year track record that he had to defend and could spin a narrative about being anti-establishment. He can’t do that now. The anti-Trump fervor this year is significantly stronger.

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You’d be hard pressed to find any credible institution who’s opinion isn’t that Biden will win.

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The broad media opinion tends to still be more skeptical than it was in 2016, back then it was inevitable that Clinton would win. This time it’s much more “Trump could still win, but it looks good for Biden”.

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There’s a lot more early voting going on this time.

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There’s more early voting in states like PA and MI, where they recently made it easier to vote before election day. Early returns aren’t favorable for Dems, though, and Republicans at least claim that they are more likely to vote on election day. Republicans have been registering a lot of new voters, supposedly anyway. Trump screaming about Dems stuffing ballot boxes is probably projection to an extent.

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Yup. They never talk about the close races in the swing states.

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My mom is pro-allende and she just wants Trump to win to see the meltdown of the democrats

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couldn’t be me

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Hmmmm that is a good point. They really didn’t like Hillary so when it was anti trump the country was like we don’t like you either, but they’re hoping enough people can stomach Biden. I could see it. What a thing to ride on though.

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None of that shit ever got past the mainstream media

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