I’ve been having a number of conversations on Hexchan recently trying to make sense of their politics. The most common instance of their hateful hypocrisy I’ve encountered is this constant assurance that they support trans people while immediately attacking and dog piling and trans people who point out that the situation would be much worse under Trump.

The hexchanners who aren’t actively Russian trolls seem to be little more than useful idiots for conservatives, minimizing the damage they do to vulnerable populations and engaging in high school level pettiness and hate.

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1879291

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Throwback to when Hillary supporters accused Bernie voters of switching to Trump in the general, and when they ran the numbers, finding that Bernie primary voters had one of the highest party loyalty rates, and that an alarming number of Hillary primary voters backed McCain in the general in '08.

Edit: Wait, this is the comment I make that ratios the OP and becomes my most upvoted comment of all time? How does that make sense?

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To be fair '08 was her turn

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They got REALLY mad when you told them that, if they believed beating Trump should be the top priority, and that Bernie Sanders supporters would largely not vote Democratic if he didn’t win, and they’re the only ones who wouldn’t just vote blue, then the only logical thing to do would be to support Bernie.

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Hearing the reaction when Matt Christman said that on that lib podcast was comedy gold

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All these anti trans laws are already happening under

let’s keep doing the same

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All these anti trans laws are already happening under

The best summary looks to me like:

  • State-level Republicans are aggressively passing anti-trans bills
  • State-level Democrats are occasionally passing trans protection bills
  • National-level Republicans are banging the table for anti-trans bills
  • National-level Democrats (collectively, at least) are unable/unwilling to pass national trans protection legislation
  • A rabidly reactionary judiciary (certainly at the federal level) is eroding protections that exist, and salivating at the prospect of more damage; Democrats have no answer to this
  • Rank-and-file Republicans range from making attack helicopter jokes to genocidal jokes
  • Rank-and-file Democrats range from making attack helicopter jokes to doing meaningful work supporting trans people

You could say much the same for abortion, too.

There are some differences, but not nearly enough, and it’s easy to see how one person can look at this and say Dems are obviously better (focusing on state stuff, rank-and-file attitudes, proposed national legislation) while another can look at this and say whatever Dems are doing (focusing mostly on national politics and losing the judiciary) is not nearly enough.

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i would just order the military extrajudicially execute transphobes with drone strikes, because i was legally authorized to drone strike US citizens that are part of terrorist movements

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“BUT BIDEN CAN’T JUST MURDER THE SUPREME COURTERINOO!”

Why? Why not? No one gave a shit when Obama was hunting down and murdering American children, why do you care when it’s a bunch of crusty old fascists?

“BIDEN CAN’T JUST BLACK BAG MANCHIN AND SHOW HIM LIVE FEED OF HIS DAUGHTER’S CAR FROM A PREDATOR DRONE!>!!>!!”

Why not? He can drop hellfire missiles on weddings and ambulances, slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, and god knows what other atrocities, but one pharma crook is off limits? Why?

We’re going to vote Blue in '24, and Blue isn’t going to do shit. The Democrats have always had options.

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no more half measures walter

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There could be a legal case be made for that, when the people drone striked have spoken to organized movements that are transphobic. Needs one or two executive orders before that though.

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Whatever support Democrats give to trans people is nothing compared to the money they dump on the transphobic fascist police and military. The Democrats and Republicans represent the same class interests. They might sometimes talk a different way, but the policy outcomes are indistinguishable.

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Friday, the Minnesota Senate voted to pass a House-approved bill that will prevent state courts or officials from complying with child removal requests, extraditions, arrests or subpoenas related to gender-affirming health care that a person receives or provides in Minnesota.

Physicians who practice gender-affirming care in Minnesota, and families who’ve sought it out for their transgender children or teenagers, have said the bill will go a long way to ensure that they can continue to access treatment without fear of other states’ laws. Some have said they’ve already seen an uptick in prospective patients from states where their options have been eliminated.

I get your point – it’s not enough – but this isn’t nothing. The article talks about people coming in from other states to take advantage of these laws, so we have evidence it’s not nothing.

We have to understand how disconnected we look when we say “this is actually no different from Florida.” The better approach is “sure, Democrats are better, but they’re awful in 10 other ways and they will never do enough, fast enough.”

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Re: The Judiciary; Democrats mostly just let it happen. McConnnell’s project to seize control of the Judiciary was in the open for at least a decade, probably much longer but I don’t want to look it up.

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Goes back to the Federalist Society founding in '82.

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Every Republican nominee is going to be a knock-off Trump, and every Democratic nominee is going to be a knock-off Obama.

That’s just how it’s gonna be from here on out.

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I sure as shit don’t feel any more safe than when Trump was in office, almost like there’s a larger societal political thing going on that’s not contingent on one person. Thanks to Biden for…

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saying he supports us.

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Hey, Biden promised access to health care under certain circumstances. What more do you want, you Trump-lover?

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no more half measures walter

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its almost like each of these presidents makes decisions based on material conditions to best serve the needs of the owning class and not due to whatever lies they put out to get elected

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In any politically aware or literate society that july 4th announcement should have caused riots. The political class mocking the masses to their faces

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By not voting for Biden, I voted for Trump (I am not a US citizen).

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That moment when you realize you’ve been a lifelong Trump voter

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Hexchan

Drumpf

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