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I get that Tibet was a bad place before China was in charge, but how does this meme not reek of “Take up the Han man’s burden?”
The real argument against it is what Robespierre said: “No one likes armed missionaries”.
edit: found the full quote: “The most extravagant idea that can take root in the head of a politician is to believe that it is enough for one people to invade a foreign people to make it adopt its laws and constitution. No one likes armed missionaries; and the first advice given by nature and prudence is to repel them as enemies.”
I guess I still think there’s value in the idea of self-determination – that Tibetan communists should be in charge of Tibet.
Communist states should spread revolution and help establish new communist states elsewhere, but not rule over them.
The governor of the Tibetan Autonomous Region has been ethnically Tibetan since it was founded in 1965.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngapoi_Ngawang_Jigme Read this guys bio and tell me Tibet was overtaken by violent force against their will.
That sounds like nationalist brainworms.
There’s nothing inherently good and a whole lot that’s very much not good about people being politically organised into ethno-cultural nation states that control the resources those ethnocultural groups have managed to seize. The idea that they should be is a) kinda fashy (“ethnocultural” is often one hell of a dog whistle) b) not great from an individual or human rights standpoint, why should the location of your birth determine what laws you live under or what resources you have a right to? and c) if followed would lead to an unjust and uncommunist world even if each of those nation states were internally communist because among nation states resources would still be distributed arbitrarily and unequally, instead of on a from-each to each basis.
"Secular leaders also did well. A notable example was the commander-in-chief of the Tibetan army, a member of the Dalai Lama’s lay Cabinet, who owned 4,000 square kilometers of land and 3,500 serfs. 12 Old Tibet has been misrepresented by some Western admirers as “a nation that required no police force because its people voluntarily observed the laws of karma.” 13 In fact. it had a professional army, albeit a small one, that served mainly as a gendarmerie for the landlords to keep order, protect their property, and hunt down runaway serfs.
Young Tibetan boys were regularly taken from their peasant families and brought into the monasteries to be trained as monks. Once there, they were bonded for life. Tashì-Tsering, a monk, reports that it was common for peasant children to be sexually mistreated in the monasteries. He himself was a victim of repeated rape, beginning at age nine. 14 The monastic estates also conscripted children for lifelong servitude as domestics, dance performers, and soldiers."
I think that the immediate liberation via Mao was quite important but I think you have a good point for a goal of the sustained revolution there.
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The details and images related to prerevolution Tibet are so NSFL that I would discourage people from looking into it.
Some of it is worse than Abu Ghraib.
But since I cannot stop people from being curious, this article (NSFL with images but not so bad as what might be encountered by searching) covers most of it:
http://md.china-embassy.org/eng/zt/zgxz/t554379.htm / https://archive.is/bGmu4
