Had Corbyn not been a coward and actually cleaned that party by purging the Blairites, this wouldn’t have happened in the first place.
Old men whose careers were built during the great hell of neoliberalism. They have been conditioned to lose for decades. I’m sure 70s Bernie and Corbyn would have acted much differently.
If you spend decades trying to work within the system and it’s norms, you only see things within those terms. They’ve basically spent their entire political careers trying to stop one ghoulish policy after the next. Improving things isn’t in their vocabulary of what’s actually possible, just stopping things from getting worse.
Could he have honestly? I legit don’t know about the Labour party apparatus.
quick dumb guy question: Why don’t momentum and all corbyn supporters just form a third party with the aim of coalition with Labour? Or not, if Labour keep being pricks.
Seems like it’s the only way they could actually get some fucking respect, end the anti semitism shit and maybe get a policy or two passed.
Maybe I’m wrong but isn’t there a constituency there that would follow Corbyn, don’t they have numbers?
my guess is they don’t have the political capital. i’m just astonished reading these threads on twitter where the majority of labor constituents buy this anti semetic narrative hook line and sinker. theres no way for me to know how organic all of that is but it’s still shocking to me
Some was organic of course, but when you consider who opposed Corbyn’s foreign policy positions, the campaigns and operations against him become clearer.
His project would & could never be allowed to succeed. It would have been so disruptive to the global geopolitical status quo.
The anti semitism campaign, for example, had a clear source.
Al Jazeera’s censored documentary “The Lobby” is a good start. Think there’s 2 parts, UK and US.
I suppose I’m visualising a scenario where Labour wants to govern and needs Corbyns party to make the numbers. Labour would be forced to negotiate and couldn’t just ignore them as if they were in the party.
Isn’t a lot of the urban labour vote Pro Corbyn? Could they suffucient numbers?
Could a new Corbyn party get enough votes so that a potential Labour party coalition would need them to form a government?
I thought that a lot of the urban Labour vote was pro Corbyn.
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Oh no, they’re gonna continue to keep giving their money to labour and passing useless motions which get them suspended from the party and even when they’re eventually kicked out the party - will still vote for a neoliberal labour next election because we have to defeat the tories/fascism (delete as appropriate)
