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What am I even looking at lol and why does this feel terminally online and parasocial

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someone is tracking where the online left stands on forcing a M4A vote, those on the right/center tend to be the ones with healthcare saying we can wait another ten years while those on the left believe it would expediate getting M4A by forcing a vote now and making Dems have to explain why they voted against healthcare for all during a pandemic when they claim “healthcare is a right”

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but even voting for it is isn’t much of a reliable indicator because they know it dies after it leaves the house, and there’s no “we” to carry it forward, just a media spectacle

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did you listen to the new Bad Faith? lays out a pretty good case for it, also you’re assuming the Dems in the House would pass it

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Ah okay, thanks for the explanation

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Chapo seemed less against it and more what’s the point.

Ben Dixon is against it. He’s actually being a petty asshole about it.

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Dixon is such an insufferable lib can’t believe I thought he was good

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A lot of people being unmasked by this, for ages they’ve been discussing m4a endlessly, but when the opportunity arrives to do something its all “not right now, this isn’t the right moment” gaslighting or just “voting wont do anything, it’ll never pass” open defeatism.

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He accused Dore of being a fed on the majority report last week.

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I only support forcing the vote because it makes libs mad and because why not, what the fuck else are they doing

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exactly, I’m actually in the “nothing matters” camp so we might as well go all out and see what happens, especially when it’s a policy the majority of libs support

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This 1000%.

They get off on leftist bending the knee to them and go fucking nuclear if you fight them.

So make em go nuclear, draw a fucking line in the sand. Goddamn, do anything but bow down and kiss the fucking ring

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I only support forcing the vote because it makes libs mad and because why not, what the fuck else are they doing

it wil help kill the democratic party

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CTH sounded like they didn’t give enough of a shit to be against it, from what I remember they mostly said it was beside the point

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They also said it’s not much of an ask.

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very true

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they sound like rich fucks who have healthcare

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this won’t get you healthcare…

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not “pragmatic” and incremental enough for you, lib?

neither will doing nothing

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Lmao calling a m4a vote that does nothing direct action.

To be clear, it is not in any way direct action. It could be if there was a force on the ground to occupy Pelosi’s office or something, but there isn’t. This is an entirely online conversation about whether a few elected officials should force a non binding vote with dubious propaganda value. I can see the benefits and risks either way, but in every scenario this is not direct action.

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build worker power one m4a vote at a time

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