Boomers are bad in China too. Who woulda thunk it…
Also, love too have 996 work culture with minimal protections in “socialist” China
This touches on something that I seldom see brought up on chapo.chat’s ceaseless China wank: it many cases, it sucks to be a worker in China, well beyond the ways in which it sucks here in the US.
It’s not just that they work hard, they work way beyond the optimal times for peak productivity, so I don’t even see how it can be justified as toil in the name of building socialism, especially when people like Jack Ma (🦀🦀🦀) get to be billionaires off of that labor.
The 996 work schedule is illegal and not condoned by the party. They are working on cracking down on it
Even if they do, there is just so much power with corporations that not that much is being done.
So, are you saying the capitalists controlling these corporations are basically more powerful than the party in present-day China?
Since things have been steadily improving for all of my life for China, and steadily worsening for the west, I’d like to say they are on the right track. Western socialism is so individualistic, you think mostly about one worker at a time, but that doesn’t win you anything. As a collective things are getting better, as a collective things are getting done. Nothing is gained without sacrifice. At least with China that sacrifice has made things better for all instead of just a few capitalists. They still have capitalists, like Ma, but that kind of thing has it’s uses too.
Perfect socialism/ communism only exists on paper.
it sucks to be a worker in China, well beyond the ways in which it sucks here in the US.
Hey, even China offers state-mandated minimum time off from work, 11 public holidays, on top of whatever the employer gives. No such legally mandated guarantee in the US. Right-to-work is also a massive anti-labor practice, and it’s quite common for people to work way, way more than 40 hour per week. As awful as labor practices are in China, at least work is easy to come by if you quit or are fired.
Rank ahead of Australia according to whom? By what metrics? I’m skeptical.
In general, Generation Z abhors the so-called 996 work rhythm – shifts that last from 9am to 9pm, six days a week – widely expected of employees by Chinese tech giants.
Sounds like a great system. wtf
Regarding the response from bosses, the blogger Massage Bear wrote: “Even if my boss scolds me [for ‘touching fish’], calls me rubbish or blames me for being not responsible, I will just smile and will never get angry. I will never take the initiative to resign. If he fires me, I will receive compensation of ‘N+1’.”
China’s Labour Law stipulates that if a company fires an employee without substantive reasons, it should pay them compensation, which is usually the employee’s monthly salary times the number (N) of years they have worked for the company plus one.
So, how substantive of a reason do they need?
China’s Labour Law stipulates that if a company fires an employee without substantive reasons, it should pay them compensation, which is usually the employee’s monthly salary times the number (N) of years they have worked for the company plus one.
Holy shit this is literally better than some of the best unemployment/pension systems in the US.
Which is why I asked the question of what constitutes a substantive reason, because at least in the west it seems corporations aren’t having issues coming up with stuff to get someone canned.
Like for example the often used tool of restructuring that just most unfortunately eliminated a few jobs.
Obviously I couldn’t say if this translates to China, but I can’t imagine their corporations being much different in that respect.
If their confidence is anything to go by, that blogger at least seemed to believe they’d receive it even if they were fired for slacking off.
Crazy thought
This is the point and the CCP will encourage these people to turn to political interests in response to their problems.
The CCP is building an interest in politics by intentionally allowing its own people to be mistreated and exploited? That is certainly an interesting theory you have.
Massage Bear gets it
A Shanghai-based white-collar worker using the alias Massage Bear shot to fame on Weibo in 2020 by promoting the “touching fish” philosophy. One of her posts which went viral read: “How hard you work depends on how much money you receive and never be serious about your work.”
the bear aesthetic is universal
Bears. Bread. Trains.
Although I do wonder if Trains are an American thing and if foreign comrades appreciate what they have.
i remember reading a chinese train enthusiast forum and it had like 1million members on it just for posting about chinese trains and train rumors so tbh its a thing for sure in china
