I had a struggle session with some comrades the other day who said Hip Hop was bad because it degrades women and teaches guys how to be misogynistic. I felt that the perspective paints the genre as one thing and is an unfair generalization despite some aspects of the music being sexist in nature. I get both sides of the argument and wanted to see what you all thought.
That literally applies to rock, pop, country, almost any genre I can think of. Almost any rock star from the 60s/70s has a horrendous history of treating women disgustingly, cancel your faves y’all. I’m not into opera but I bet there’s misogynist operas lol. The difference is hip hop is majority black musicians, so people do a nice racism and call it thuggish, homophobic, sexist, whatever. For every hip hop song like that there’s another about serious issues, there’s loads of revolutionary and heartfelt hip hop. Tarring the whole genre with that brush is racist as fuck imo.
Eh, genres can have trends and can develop an associated culture, including political culture. I don’t know anything about hip-hop, but there are probably scenes within it that can be analysed.
There’s going to be degrading shit in every genre. I’m concerned about you even engaging in something that’s obviously in bad faith. Hip Hop is wonderful when actualized, shit like Common’s Like Water for Chocolate is incredibly uplifting.
The criticism that you’re bringing up is part of an age old tradition of “brown people bad”, it happened with Jazz, it happened with RnB, it happened with Rock, and it’s happening with Hip Hop since the 90’s. Don’t put up with that.
Don’t forget disco! Definitely not homophobic white supremacist guys literally had a stadium event to blow up disco records back in the day
I’m not too familiar with the history of disco, which is why I didn’t bring it up.
read and enjoy!. There’s also a dollop on this, the guy that organised it was a real scumbag.
I agree. I honestly don’t know as much as I should about the genre besides what’s in the mainstream but I think making the case that a whole genre is bad because of a few artists is wrong and plays into a racist narrative. I guess it’s best to educate myself if people try and make that argument with me again.
Would you like to learn? Hip hop is as diverse as people, especially since much of it is lyrically driven. Some of the production that goes into making it is just crazy.
Hip hop has just as many sub genres as rock and not all hip hop songs are sexist. I think you’re friends are just racist
Rap = black
Now look again at the problems people have with it as a genre.
Meanwhile Rock n’ Roll and Country out there with songs about pedophilia on the radio.