https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/1711053707964805547
Its 4 am and i have to go to bed im not digging up the original, if it still exists
I know why they think N Ireland is the exception
But without that, how would you justify that as the only violent struggle that worked? They didn’t achieve a united Ireland. No offence to the IRA or Sinn Fein obviously, but the Good Friday Agreement wasn’t considered a resounding victory in my recollection, and led to the Real IRA splinter group.
All of human history and that’s the one time violent struggle against oppression worked? Assuming their American they can’t even remember their own bourgeois rebellion?
Look, they were talking about the
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Justin Schlosberg (@jrschlosberg): Virtually all human history of violent resistance to violent oppression - with the possible exception of Northern Ireland in the 20th century - is a history of abject failure.
Its why leaders like MLK and Gandhi deplored it and Malcolm X and Mandela abandoned it.
Dog Pope (@Dog__Pope): Haiti, Angola, South Africa, Cuba, Vietnam, I could genuinely go on.
Justin: I must confess I perhaps don’t possess the breadth of historical knowledge to justify that rather sweeping statement… but I don’t believe it was the armed struggle that defeated apartheid in South Africa…
Dog Pope: Maybe actually read some history before making such declarations. It’s genuinely very unhelpful.
Justin: Thanks Dog. And remember it’s OK to express a difference of opinion without resorting to personalised attacks. I recommend trying it some time.
Dog Pope: No, you don’t as a supposed intellectual get to proclaim a strong opinion on something you clearly had no idea about, the amount of shit I had to read yesterday from people paid to be wise has made me even more cynical, which I didn’t even know was possible.
Dog Pope: It’s ahistorical, lazy and honestly you’ve now made people question your rigor on more than history questionable. How is anyone supposed to trust what your write when you haven’t even got a basic grasp on modern history?
Oh my god I hate these kinds of dickwipes.
“Uh ok I guess you have a point but do you have to be so mean about it?” Fuck right off you dweeb.
If you can’t make your point without resorting to insincere sarcasm, then you never had a point to begin with.
some loser from the startrek.website after i corrected them via a fact and with some added sarcasm
it’s just “I cant refute you, so I’ll attack you instead of your argument.” debate sophistry that they apparentely hate so much
Dudes a knobhead but I do think people are generally too quick to analogize anti-colonial struggles and anti-settler colonial struggles. It’s a lot easier to get the French to fuck out of Algeria, because they can go back to France.
I mean, how did this guy miss the American, Russian, Chinese, and French Revolutions? I’m genuinely in awe of the blinders.
