Seriously what is up with whining about people bringing their kids shopping. I get that they hate poor people I just would expect them to have more than one thing to talk about

Edit: Even though I enjoy conflict, I guess I’ll add some context here anyway. The usual line I hear as smalltalk is “You don’t have to bring the whole family shopping,” which if you don’t shut it down immediately, will be followed up with some of the most racist and/or classist statements you can imagine, typically involving birth rates

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Yeah I couldn’t imagine why people wouldn’t like going grocery shopping while someone’s kid is running around, screaming and pulling things off shelves. Must be because they hate poor people.

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Lol tightass

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A grocery store isn’t a playground, no one is entitled to make other people deal with their shitty parenting.

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until you’re paying for their childcare so they don’t have to bring their kids shut the fuck up

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Welcome to the real world lol. Kids are part of it, get used to it. You were once a bratty child too, we all were at one stage. It’s part of life.

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In the “real world” it’s perfectly fine to be annoyed by unmanaged children. It always has been and it always will be, just like not having kids and not wanting to deal with other people’s shittily behaved kids is also acceptable. Do you think kid free restaurants, vacation spots, etc exist for no reason?

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Yeah but a supermarket is not a vacation spot, restaurant or club. It’s a supermarket, a grocery store.

I understand child free spots when appropriate, I just don’t think a grocery store or supermarket should be child free.

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It’s part of life

naturalizing capitalist modes of production…ok liberal

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what the fuck are you talking about

Death to America

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kids aren’t a capitalist mode of production, they are people

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To be fair you don’t have to be rich to teach your kids how to act while their out in public.

Unless they’re baby age, then yeah babies gonna cry sometimes, it happens.

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Noisy isn’t necessarily inappropriate behavior in public. People should be less tightassed

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I dunno man, on one hand, I kind of agree with you for the most part, on the other hand, if you’re out in public you should be mindful that it’s not your house and there are people around that may be dealing with shit you don’t know about. People with PTSD and sensory issues gotta shop too.

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They do, but so do parents of kids with behavioral issues and such. I’m not saying “don’t teach your kids to be respectful in public,” I’m saying that a lack of childcare is the source of the conflict and the amount of “they need to hit that kid” that passes for smalltalk is outrageous, selfish, and whiny

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I was in a theater once with a woman who brought her toddler into a horror movie, and when the kid predictably started crying, she pulled out her phone and put on baby shark at damn near full volume for them. Some people do need to be less tightaased, but some people also genuinely don’t know how to act in public anymore.

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Don’t get me wrong, I’d get theater staff involved at that point

It’s usually shopping that people talk about - specifically something necessary, boring, and time-sensitive where you’re likely to encounter behavior problems in larger families because it’s a kid-unfriendly environment where most activities are impossible, and the parent is having to divide their attention between all of the kids and shopping

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she pulled out her phone and put on baby shark at damn near full volume for them

I agree with you but also that woman is objectively hillarious

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I am convinced that the particular rampant nature of childism is at least partly because the atomization in our society ensures that people aren’t around children at all.

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A grocery store is a miserable place to be a child. It’s full of objects scientifically designed to convince people to pick them up and take them, and the kid is not allowed to take them. Plus they have to sit on the hard steel wire basket seat for like 90 minutes, and are surrounded by obnoxiously loud noises.

Of course, nobody can afford a babysitter and nobody has an extended family, so the kids come with. Even if they are sick. ESPECIALLY if they are sick.

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What the hell is wrong with bringing kids with to the grocery store? Hell here in South Africa some of the shopping carts even have full on baby car seats attached to them, and most of the larger carts/trolleys have a fold out kids seat. It’s perfectly normal to bring your kids with. Do people really moan about that?

Are people really so atomised in the USA that seeing kids exist in the real world freaks them out?

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Yes

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We have those carts too in the US. There are certain people who hate kids and parents so much they lose their shit on anything that helps them at all like universal childcare. The weird child free types.

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Are people really so atomised in the USA that seeing kids exist in the real world freaks them out?

Absolutely. Where do you think those antinatalist freaks come from?

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