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“I don’t know what a Holocaust denier even is.”

— Norman Finkelstein, who also recently guested on the TrueAnon podcast

Literally doing the exact same scumbag media smear bullshit tactics Finkelstein described on the episode in question

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The article is just laughably bad.

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Also Jewish Chronicle smeared labour members who supported Corbyn (and of course smeared Corbyn in general).

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jewish-chronicle-rapped-ipso-lack-of-evidence-claims-labour-activist/

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Yeah, there was a lot of hasty backtracking in the 80s when Irving went off the deep end. He’d been known for doing good work in the German archives before that happened.

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How did he go off the deep end? Like, how did he go from respected historian to Holocaust denier?

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they kinda are though

and the article specifies the dirtbag left rather than the left itself so yes, red scare people being fash apologists / doing fash ironics, arent indicative of the left but it is indicative of the dirtbag left

i understand how dumb this article is, and it seems like it has some basic facts wrong but i dont know how “the dirtbag left is flirting with the alt right” is a controversial take in 2021. 2016, maybe, back when lefties were swimming in bad faith assumptions made by libs who had no intention of ever engaging with the dirtbag left in good faith, but i think since then the 2016 “dirtbag left”'s tendency to deny good faith crticism because of lib craziness, is now seen as a wrong, racist/ transphobic/ marginalizing etc choice

also the bill nye n word slurred bit is disgusting and racist. i will assume anyone still finding that shit cute is racist //like would you play that shit in front of a black person? probably not and its definitely for a reason. and if you did and got your shit rocked, nobody would think that black person was out of pocket . also like notice how almost every black person hates that bit and thinks its racist. this shit isnt a joke…

leftists could do with practicing being wrong sometimes, even if your ideological opposition is right. cant be any worse than being a marginalized leftist, witnessing white leftists refuse to deal with real misbehavior actually having to do with your existence (not just your political viewpoint) because they dont want to be seen as wrong

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I wouldn’t consider the Red Scare mean girls to be the dirtbag left or even left.

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they literally say they’re post left, ie not left

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You raise some good points.

Particularly with “leftist practicing being wrong sometimes”. I don’t know if it’s because we’re so trapped in the “dunk” model of communication, or because Marx himself was both correct and an absolutely tiresome asshole, or because we’re so small we’re worried we’ll damage ourselves and/or the left by admitting we’re wrong, but it’s almost pathological.

Not admitting fault is a powerful tool on the right, but it doesn’t work on the left.

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How long until Gwen Snider gets invited onto CNN to discuss the chapo-to-fash pipeline?

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Idk but I threatened to start a podcast with Gwen Snyder and Charlotte clymer and call it hexbear while I was drunk posting yesterday lmao

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That’s some quality drunk posting.

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Alt Left podcast Cum Town

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Wait, Alexander Reid Ross wrote this?!

That dude is a loon who sees Nazbols under every rock. I can’t believe I didn’t read the byline. This isn’t even the first time he’s written this article!

You can read from exile to dirtbag here, from 2018. It’s the exact same thing - guilt by association, in this case basically playing “knee bone connected to the shin bone” to equate Richard Spencer, Limonov, and…the Chapos.

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We’ve been getting breathless articles about how CTH will lead to red fash taking over since they started. It’s wild how people who consider themselves good leftists don’t recognize that shit like this is just like how CNN panics over Fox News. It’s the journalism industry competing with each other by trying to convince the audience the other guy is bad. Also chapo used to literally make death threats to people in the media as a bit for the first 10 eps or so. Of course these kinds of people hate them. They can’t sell their brand of “left” journalism when the ebil brocialist left shits on them and makes them look foolish. These people live on selling their credibility as left-whisperers to larger news outlets.

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He recently courted a public-relations disaster when he offered a platform to Magnus Panvidya, a member of the Boogaloo Boys, a militant group that threatened violence ahead of Biden’s inauguration.

I’ll take “sentences that sound like Felix bits” for $600

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Magnus Panvidya

That can’t be a real name lmao

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the funniest thing about this article, is that Red Scare, Jimmy Dore are not staples of the left, lmao.

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Gotta make sure to characterize the left by using the most obnoxious and contentious possible examples to make people think we’re all like that.

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Yeah, can’t believe they snubbed Vaush.

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Despite all his faults, i don’t think Vaush has ever went the “we need to form an alliance with the right to take down the establishment” route like those weirdos

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Seriously, that would have been a layup for this dweeb “journalist”

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They do have a Matt Christman quote completely randomly thrown in there too though.

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Chapo Trap House’s Matt Christman avowed in an interview with the TrueAnon podcasters last year: “There are two basic premises to QAnon, one is right and one is wrong, … That’s why I say it’s a 50/50 thing. The premise of, ‘We are ruled by a cabal of cannibalistic psychotic sexual abusers and all the institutions that they create are to further their dominance over us’: Correct. And that ‘Donald Trump is going to stop them’: Incorrect.”

Imagine living through #MeToo and thinking “people in power exploit their authority to commit sexual assault” is a conspiracy theory.

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