So Dan from Game Grumps (aged 42) is getting cancelled for supposed grooming. I don’t want to say he’s not a groomer, because theres stuff about other alleged behavior that isnt detailed at all in it.

But like the story presented is that a 17 year old fan started messaging him. He thanks her for her support and wishes her a happy birthday when she turns 18 about a month later. Then nothing is shown until the fans 22 and they exchange some cringey sexts. Then apparently they fuck and he breaks things off. And everyone’s calling this grooming, but like, that’s not what grooming is? I donno, it just feels like people really have been stretching definitions of things for the last year like with that Alex Morse thing to take advantage of cancel culture. And it seems like it only causes people to ignore victims who are actually groomed.

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libs killed cancel culture when Biden was exposed

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FUCKING COMMULISTS

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I saw some people saying Jon is best grump and I’m all like bruh, he is a Nazi.

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The parasocial effect is way too strong with him. His fans deny him being a Nazi even when he literally says he doesn’t want immigrants cause they taint the gene pool.

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His videos were legitimately funny until he started hinting at being a massive fucking racist (which, to be fair, was pretty early on)

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There is/was definitely a trend in certain circles of “I had consensual sex with a person that I later regretted/was embarrassed about, and because that person is older than me it’s now grooming”. Definitely saw an uptick of that in 2020. Grooming is still a thing, though, I’m not discounting that at all.

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:wut:

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I don’t know what famous ones to point to other than Alex Morse, but there was a month to two where grooming discourse was hot on Twitter, and I saw other accounts on Twitter claiming they were groomed at like 27 by a 40 something year old who they (self admittedly) had consensual sex with, and the texts they show are just crigney but not grooming/didn’t really have any of the actual signs of grooming (gift giving and eventually expecting stuff in return, isolating them from their social network, etc.) It’s was a phenomenon in a certain corner of twitter more so than a widespread cultural phenomenon. There are absolutely adults that do get groomed by adult sexual predators, I’m not saying it’s something that happens only to children or anything like that.

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He gives me more “wannabe rock star fucking groupies” vibes then “groomer pedo” vibes tbh.

People should honestly know better either way, and by people I mean youtubers

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…Is fucking groupies a form of exploitation ?

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It can be, there’s definitely a power imbalance. But I would be hesitant to say every instance of someone hooking up with a celeb like that is exploitative in nature.

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It’s messy because I don’t want to deny any agency to people who might just want to fuck someone they’re attracted to and admire, but it can definitely be exploitative

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Like it totally can be but at no point in the evidence shown was there any promise of using that power to help her out, and like he didn’t surprise whip his dick out. He sent her that hilarious hot tub video first.

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Hell, having sex with anyone without paying them is a form of wage theft.

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…Most sex work is a form of exploitation on both sides no i will not cede my time onlyfans is not praxis.

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Now that everything is commodified, any action you take that is not compensated is wage theft. That’s why I stream my facecare routine on twitch, have a patreon for my cha cha posts and an only fans for my morning wank.

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No, you see, my sex time is worth $x, and their sex time is worth $x, so in a two way consensual relationship, the wage cancels out. I could pay them $20 and they pay me $20, but we’d just be exchanging $20 bills.

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Wasn’t that part of what caused all the issues with Pinegrove?

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He gives me more “wannabe rock star fucking groupies” vibes then “groomer pedo” vibes tbh.

Pretty sure rockstars fucked underage girls pretty regularly, so he’s actually less creepy than a wannabe rock star from what we know.

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Fandoms of online personalities are obsessive and awful in general, I believe some weirdos on 4chan believed they’d found out that Mike and Jessi from RedLetterMedia had a kid from snooping Milwaukee area hospital records

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Fuck, I really did not want to know that and I miss Jessi being on the show, especially cause she had to leave over that

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Being visible online is bad, but being visible and a woman is exponentially worse

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Yeah, RLM is one of the few YouTube groups that doesn’t fuck around with fans. They hate their fans more than Chapo does lol

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I love how when Jontron left they just made shit up about how he slapped Suzy. But then he had to one-up that by being a Nazi dipshit.

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