Telegram has voice chats now and Discord is just terrible privacy wise.

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Telegram isn’t the best obviously but it’s miles better than Discord and it got a lot of features which should make convincing friend to switch easy

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Telegram is used widely in Europe I believe. Good luck getting your friends to switch off discord. It is impossible to get people to take even the most insignificant action for privacy in my experience.

I use signal with the few people that have any opsec awareness.

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Are you aware of Telegram’s many features? You can use that to entice them.

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all my friends use either fb messenger or instagram dm or whatsapp and it’s all just facebook. I wish teens found it really cringe and embarrassing to let FB spy on you

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wasn’t Signal found to have backdoors recently?

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Honestly at this point who cares if my data is taken they already know everything worth knowing about me

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Nearly all chats on telegram have the same level of security as discord. Only ‘secret’ chats are end-to-end encrypted. No group chats are end-to-end encrypted.

They tout themselves as secure because they use TLS for data transfer which discord does as well. The only difference is that if you manually enable a secret chat they can’t read those messages. They can read and listen to everything else.

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And I didn’t mention security or E2EE in the post for that reason… just check the privacy policy of both apps.

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Yeah but why not Element, Rocket.chat, self-hosted mumble or jitsi meet?

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Because a lot of Discord users won’t consider them good alternatives to it. Element is adding a feature equivalent to channels in Discord but it doesn’t have Discord’s voice chat.

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Telegram just needs to be nationalized and fully encrypted and it would be the ultimate messenger app, the user experience is a full 10/10

edit: caveat that nationalization has issues, since it depends on which country is the one owning it. I’d pretty much only accept it if it’s Cuba, or maybe a random Carribean tax haven (still not the best). Federation would be better, but I think you get the idea.

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