FluffyPotato

I’m not from a country that’s rich enough to have rich areas. No American style suburbs here thankfully.

The main disincentive is still societal even if you are talking just about shoplifting(Though I was mostly talking about private property). Cops will just arrest you but if you get a criminal record you will have a harder time finding a job, people will not trust you and your family may even disown you.

I understand that system is leagues more fucked up in the US where the cops will just shoot you if you’re darker than mayonnaise, 3 insignificant crimes get you serious jail time and every sentence is normal amount of years times ten but it’s a uniquely bad system there and not a reflection of the rest of the world and in the rest of the world the threat of violence is generally not there and we perpetuate this system. You guys also have absolutely insane wealth differences and like no way to even do anything about it, Americans should really take pointers from the French and organize a proper general strike, nothing will change if people just complain.

Also your analogy would be more accurate if I mugged someone with a toy gun. As I said cops aren’t as powerful as the whole of the working class.

You would most likely still be arrested or you would get away if really lucky. But this is all irrelevant, if cops were Thanos snapped capitalism would not go away, without unity in the working class nothing will change. Being able to steal without consequence is not socialism.

I already adressed the US situation as being uniquely fucked lower down. You guys need to organize more than pretty much any country in the world, take some pointers from the French. Cops will never be as powerful as a unified working class.

Read the bottom replies if you wanna argue this, I don’t want to repeatedly type out the same stuff on a phone.

Ultimately if the workers are unified capitalist don’t have the power to coup anyone unless you are a dictatorship with a strongman to coup but that’s no better than the current system. The 1% of people will never be more powerful than a unified 99%, like if that is achieved I doubt you even need force but I do consider it to be acceptable to fulfill the will of the people. Force is not the primary, way or even secondary, that capitalism is maintained, it’s division and diversion.

As I originally said: the threat of force exists but it’s not the primary or even secondary way capitalism is maintained. Also if the whole working class unified that would be a force so big force is both irrelevant and quite potentially even unnecessary. But I brought both points up in my previous replies, I’d not accuse someone if not understanding if you yourself end up repeating points already answered.

A force that is both puny and irrelevant in the face of the whole working class acting together.

I have also brought up how having a dictator rule the working class with an iron fist is not a unified working class but an equally oppressed one. Having one strongman on top makes any country vulnerable.

All of that is irrelevant though without unity you have nothing but people shouting into the void of social media. No revolution or movement goes anywhere without unity and it’s the only way to achieve socialism.

How? They had their influence in the EU but not anymore. I can’t think of any influence they have currently.

Can’t remember if it was Baldur’s Gate 1 or Morrowind when I was a kid.

Income tax on no income sounds fucking stupid. Just up property tax on the 3th or 4th house or apartment by a fuckton, watch everyone panic sell their shit crashing the housing market into oblivion and call it a day. Ez affordable housing.