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Just an endless slew of clickbait “China bad” headlines all the time. Really makes you wonder about if there is some sort of systemic problem with western media.

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It is called propaganda

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Be careful, saying something like that might get you called a wumao

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me casually just responding to NAFOids that I get paid 50CNY an hour to :anti-cracker-aktion:

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If you want to see consent being manufactured, go into the Telegraph and click through to the journalist’s post history article history

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It’s going to be hilarious in a year or so when we’ll have LLM bots churning these types of articles out even at respected news outlets, and all critics of this narrative will still get smeared as being bots themselves

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Thank you for your valuable comment

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Thank YOU for your waste of oxygen.

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Stop whining mate.

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Stop you’re scaring him!

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😠

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Oh baby, are you alright? You need a little lie down?

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what is federation?

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😘

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welcome to federation, enjoy your stay

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China: sends Russia six helicopters (before the war), some children’s toys, a box of consumer-grade hunting scopes, and metal. They are the bad guys who are prolonging the war.

NATO: sends Ukraine weapons and military vehicles worth more than China’s entire military budget, and provides training and logistics support. They are the good guys trying to end the war.

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The liberals only read the titles and then come straight to the comment sections so they don’t actually realise any of this unless you spell it out for them.

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14 points

Who attacked who again?

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Does your definition of “attack” include locking people in a church and burning them alive? How about sponsoring Neo-Nazi paramilitaries to murder and rape people for seaking a language? Shelling cities and civilians in defiance of international cease fire treaties?

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I don’t mean to get in an argument, because that isn’t at all productive.

I wonder though - if Russia hadn’t illegally occupied Ukraine/Crimea, would that have happened?

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history started the day russia invaded and nothing happened in ukraine between then and the collapse of the USSR.

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Good point never thought of it like that before. I love Bill Clinton, Neoliberalism is radical. Did you know he played the saxophone? So cool. Slava USA

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Ukraine violated the ceasefire and attacked the DPR and LPR days before the invasion happened:

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How many guesses do I get?

First guess: China. Bad.

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I think my question was misunderstood.

Your original post makes it seem like you think NATO are the bad guys here because they are supplying weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves.

I asked “who attacked who” because to me, it seems pretty clear that Russia, a dictatorship whose government has a history of human rights violations and disregard for human life, is doing a bad thing when they invade a neighboring country and start shooting missiles at civilian homes on a daily basis for a year and half.

Could you explain how this is not a clear “Russia doing bad thing, we should help Ukraine” situation?

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Yes because giving some one the ability to defend their country, and supporting an invasion have the same moral implications

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they sent metal metal. famously russia lacks any source of metals so they needed that for the war

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In the Vanilla version yes … but this is a more advanced situation …

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Got it right in one go, impressed!

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Liberals taking pride in being so heavily propagandised is the same as workers taking pride in being overworked and underpaid.

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Yes, if you go to aliexpress, you could buy Chinese made helicopter, drones and metals. Thank you the telegraph for the basic info

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Like, the yank was so mad at Ukrainian keep using Chinese drone, that they force them to stop buying it and use their expensive drone.

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The Pentagon is mad that Congress forced them to stop buying Chinese drones. Apparently there are no available replacements in some categories and even where there are, they are many times more expensive.

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That’s gotta be in some cyberpunk book somewhere. Especially if they start giving different ratings to the equipment and flaming each other over it.

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Focusing on Chinese drones that end up in Russia while completely ignoring the Chinese drones that end up in the Ukraine is some cherry picking I expected from the Telegraph. Products and components are made in China, which shouldn’t come as a surprise.

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This is referring to consumer level drones too right? Like DJI stuff?

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Ukraine only has consumer drones, I don’t think they have any military drones

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I thought they had some for some reason

People need to start distinguishing between the little quadcopters you can buy at walmart, and fucking reaper drones. Headlines like “China is selling drones to Russia” makes it seem like it isn’t a $150 drone bought off fucking aliexpress

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Pretty sure they have Baryraktar drones, purchased from Turkey, among other military drones.

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I don’t think you can buy Bayraktar drones from your local general store…

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60 points

The Telegraph is the only one reporting this, we’re supposed to believe a sensationalist conservative tabloid?

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well if you trade metal to Russia, and metal goes in weapons, you are basically handing them weapons of mass destruction if you think about it

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It looks like the data is from Malfar Group which dubs itself as open source intelligence (whatever that means). Looking at their website, it is all Ukraine related. That’s fine in and of itself but it should be noted by them or The Telegraph. But The Telegraph is not exactly a paragon of journalistic integrity.

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The Telegraph is a broadsheet not a tabloid for goodness sake.

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