Mjpasta710
We’ve (USA) been in a republic since independence. Democracy only for local elections, and then electing representatives. The country has its downfalls. We could use an update to our voting system to represent the people more to boot.
That’s where the comparison between a felon and a non-felon become salient. The one with felonies actively tried to corrupt the voting system more than once. If the people are expected to buy into the system at all they need to be able to have free, and transparent elections.
The courts also decided that corporations are people, and they can contribute to campaigns like people. The courts also decided that political action committees could take massive amounts of cash and spend it as they want with very little oversight.
The system needs to get its stuff together, its true purpose of serving the aristocracy is showing too much.
The people won’t challenge the status quo, the majority with their bread and circuses.
Speaking of ‘democracy’ or other types of government. Democracy can be perverted quickly, the majority eating all minorities rapidly. Democratic republics seem to have corporations entrenched in them currently, serving the corporation not the person. Been called a corporatocracy i believe. Communism hasn’t survived without being corrupted to date.
There should be a solution that actually works, any ideas?
I think that some crimes won’t ever see justice. This world is not fair. Pretending it ever will be, or was, is a fairy tale.
I’m not trying to argue.
I’d say that there is such a thing as a jurisdiction.
Actions committed inside the range of a prosecutor’s jurisdiction are eligible for prosecution by that party.
The argument is war crimes vs a felon.
Why should we care that Trump is a felon? If it was for a series of DUIs, I’d say I wouldn’t care.
The felonies are for election interference in a state that had jurisdiction. Election interference in a race for the same job he’s shooting for again.
The felon is making promises to abuse the military industrial complex to a level that makes war crimes committed so far seem bashful.
If we were to compare the war crimes of the two candidates we still come up in favor of Biden. I don’t have the time to list the atrocities committed by our war machine(s).
Trump was arguably on the side of fascists and has come out in praise of dictators. Trump has said that NATO would be dismantled under his care if they didn’t pay up, like some sort of mob collection scheme. Trump has said that Israel should step up their genocide. Trump seriously mismanaged every military operation that he was involved in. For example: destroying lives and completely upending free and fair rule of law in Afghanistan bungling a withdrawal that left the Islamic religious terrorists in control
There isn’t a court to prosecute our president(s) for any defensive or offensive actions taken. There absolutely should be. Good luck getting any non-compliant nuclear powers to submit.
I’m sorry, but the conversation is still a binary choice, of which both are not the best.
We get very few choices in first past the pole. Until we change it somehow, for the better - We can vote to pick our states electoral votes for the president.
There are only ever going to be 2 options. We vote for one of them. The war machine is what keeps the world economy going. I’m concerned about, and have protested the industrial military complex for as long as I’ve been aware of it. Regarding genocide currently: We have Christian crazy folks convinced Israel has to exist. I protest it, I’m against it. I don’t have as much cash to bribe politicians.
That’s what it comes down to. We get the votes. We don’t get to pick all the policy. I don’t have money to write policy like these super pacs or other orgs.
The argument was why focus on the felonies instead of the war crimes… It’s a binary choice, A. one guy wants to be a dictator with extra war crimes allowed and encouraged and local crimes. Promises further disregard for law in 1000 page writeup. Happens to be a felon, proving the criminal status locally.
B. Other guy has a track of following the pulse and kinda changing opinion to match the room, shows compassion sometimes. with war crimes allowed. Dislikes dictators…
C. We are a world built in and on war. The current human organizations are not ready to allow us to run things peacefully. Nations get paid money when they commit atrocities against one another, not lives restored. We’re actually controlled by banks and the mega rich the world over. Option c is included with either of the above or any new options as it has been since civilization began.
I wish for an end to modern government that oppresses the individual and doesn’t respect personal freedoms.
I do not wish to hasten death for anyone. I’ll keep wishing for peace.
Wishing for or causing death only creates an enemy from those who could have been your friend. If you wish death to them, be careful it doesn’t come back around.
This isn’t common among all political races and it shouldn’t be. There’s always spin and media narratives.
The felony convictions were for literally paying a newspaper to run and or squash stories for cash.
Your attitude seems to be, well of course there’s corruption. Why are you upset? It’s normal.
No, it’s not supposed to be allowed to work that way. People who let it go and say “ah whatever” are what allow it to continue.
The courts you imagine to exist for trying these folks… Where can I find them?
I was answering why the words convicted felon in this case are being used.
To answer other questions about prosecution… The country decided that the president is immune from prosecution. Sadly I am not able to sway the court’s decisions.
Where is the court to prosecute murders committed from thousands of miles away on other continents? Empowered by whom?
It’s the part where he actively committed the felonies to increase his chances of winning the 2016 election, that’s what seems egregious to some.
He literally engaged in election fraud, the thing he screams about. He’s been convicted of it.