Joe

As an outsider (also non-US), it seems obvious enough to me that US society and subsequently US politics is pretty screwed up and big changes there are unlikely. Lowly US workers would seem to have a slightly better chance of a secure life if the US democrats could get and maintain a majority, and it would be an opportunity for more meaningful change.

Once again as an outsider, I see some traditional northern-EU models as better - social democracies, with capitalism’s extremes largely reigned in, with attempts to find a balance between workers and large employers. I also see how the EU has prioritised capitalism and we risk a race to the bottom. I don’t see capitalism as evil, but it is obviously a successful model that has largely taken over the world. I wonder if there are viable alternatives that don’t involve pitchforks, along with a transitional path to them.

I can imagine other forms of socially-minded corporate governance, competing and sometimes winning against for-profit global corps, with the appropriate legal forms/framework in place, and initial government support. I guess that in some ways, public service/institutions are already this for some.

I can’t imagine a wholesale abandonment of the current capitalist system, a big revolution, and any kind of stable or fair system coming from it. That whole human nature thing, I guess.

So what could be an alternative with a chance of peaceful success, which could sustain itself in this globalist world?

edit: Thanks for the replies, everyone. Interesting links. The books will hopefully have more references than medium/youtube. Enough to get me started, anyway!

My own take is that there are ruzzians (pro-SMO, happy for russia to invade and occupy a sovereign country, attacking civilians and civilian infrastructure, and happy to excuse war-crimes when convenient for them) and normal russians, a mostly apolitical & apathetic bunch of people who try to keep their head down, some of which vote with their feet, and a few stand-up folks who will call a spade a spade publicly. No real surprises & pretty typical population make-up, in other words.

Personally, I don’t think russia deserves to wear a “great power” party hat. It’s the wrong horse to bet on for a chance of a better world.

I’m aware, thanks.

I have pets too!

The scam that has passed the test of time. So scamming good, that even communists turn to it!

I’m also looking forward to a viable/stable alternative. I have serious doubts that I’ll see one in my lifetime, unfortunately.

There is a reason I reply to lemmygrad and hexbear people, and follow some of the communities. Sometimes I get interesting responses. Not your response, but sometimes.

No, but you didn’t need to engage in circle-jerking with your friends either. You are capable of more, and I look forward to reading your future contributions.

Me? I’m pretty open minded, while trying to apply critical thinking. Make a good argument, and I’ll digest it. You seem to be jumping to conclusions, which may hurt your cause (edit: your ability to convince others, to the detriment of your cause)

What on earth do you mean by that? Was it intended to disrupt the conversation with nonsense, or is there some meaning that you can explain?