It’s the exact same argument in the form of: “I figured things out, so I feel no sympathy for anyone who didn’t.”
That’s the whole fucking point of “which side are you on?” We live in a world of exploitation and terror. I do not have sympathy for people who go to war to protect it.
Should I have sympathy for scabs because they “grew up in an environment which made them hostile to working class solidarity”? Should I have sympathy for slave-owners because “they grew up in an environment where owning humans was normalized”?
What the fuck?
You can think he should get the book thrown at him, you can think it would have been better if he had been gunned down on the spot, and you can simultaneously think it’s a tragedy that a literal child wasted his life because he grew up around chuds.
You do understand that we in a world plagued by tragedy? The tragedies you choose to center speaks volumes. Yes, it’s horrible that Nazi families are training their child to slaughter anti-racist protesters. They are slaughtering anti-racist protesters. I do not give a shit about the Nazi terrorist doing the killings.
Again: he’s literally a child. He’s 17. By all accounts his brain is a few years from being fully developed. You can’t be (rightly) upset about something like the military recruiting 17-year-olds and then turn around and have absolutely zero sympathy for a 17-year-old who gets talked into toting around a gun and shooting someone. That’s incoherent.
The tragedies you choose to center speaks volumes.
Who’s centering this?
Yes! Why do people pretend like kids have no free will whatsoever. It’s so fucking weird.
Were the kids who joined the White Rose Society to fight against Nazi occupation still just kids? Are they not heroes, just the product of their environment?
People need to have some moral conviction, god fucking dammit.
Again: he’s literally a child. He’s 17. By all accounts his brain is a few years from being fully developed. You can’t be (rightly) upset about something like the military recruiting 17-year-olds and then turn around and have absolutely zero sympathy for a 17-year-old who gets talked into toting around a gun and shooting someone. That’s incoherent.
How is that incoherent? I support prevention. White supremacists should not be indoctrinating children. I still do not have sympathy for white supremacist terrorists slaughtering anti-racist supporters.
It is disgusting that the military preys on children to carry out their imperial project, too. That does not change the fact a soldier raping and pillaging the Global South is undeserving of sympathy for their actions.
Who’s centering this?
“In addition to the lives this kid destroyed, his own should be added to the tally of lives ruined by the right. Poor kid, many of us here could have gone the way he did if not for luck and circumstance. Not that it’s any fucking excuse, but goddamnit what a waste”
Literally the top comment in this thread, that we both are responding to.
“Luck and circumstance” do not wipe away individual choices. This kid chose to slaughter anti-racist protesters last night. Millions of Rightist kids chose not to slaughter anti-racist protesters last night. He is not a “poor kid.” He chose to drive into a city he’s not from, and kill people.
White supremacists should not be indoctrinating children.
“But I have no sympathy for any child they indoctrinate.”
In addition to the lives this kid destroyed, his own should be added to the tally of lives ruined by the right… Not that it’s any fucking excuse
I don’t know what you think “centering” means, but this ain’t it.
“Luck and circumstance” do not wipe away individual choices.
Exactly zero people in this thread are claiming it does. You can think a child should be held responsible for their actions but still think it’s a waste that they were steered into doing something horrible.
I mean, give me you take on child soldiers. Kill 'em all, right? Give me your take on some kid who grows up poor and surrounded by violence and then commits a violent crime himself. Send him to the chair, right?