If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link:

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to this if you can, thank you.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1B1PLMhbHmG1aJ2-QNxHY1TksI6HlNhqF&ll=48.60777942568106%2C36.4496511633501&z=7

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.42l.fr/RWApodcast

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary :kitty-cri:

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia/videos

obvious disclaimers about taking all of them with tonnes of salt etc

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

Previous megathreads

First

Second

Third

Fourth

Fifth

Sixth

Seventh

Eighth

Ninth

Tenth

Eleventh

Twelfth

Thirteenth

Fourteenth

Fifteenth

Sixteenth

Seventeenth

Eighteenth

!news@hexbear.net RSS Feed https://hexbear.net/feeds/c/news.xml

You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
65 points

You know, why is the propaganda push for this war SO intense? A few older people on other leftist spaces are saying they’ve NEVER seen it this bad, not even for the Iraq war

It can’t just be to distract from COVID and the shit economy…

like the Dinosaur Jr. releasing Ukraine flavored band merch is the thing that really made me realize the absurdity of this shit

permalink
report
reply
40 points

US knows if they fail here and Ukraine falls with no huge consequences to Russia then it’s open season. All of their enemies are gonna start re-taking what the US took from them, bit by bit, and their empire will be whittled down.

This is America’s Suez Canal Crisis, but instead of handing over the empire to another anglo it’s instead handing power over to Chinese/Russian/Iranian “others” so it’s far more scary

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
38 points

the internet wasn’t as big back then

could be part of it

though i remember watching the yankee invasion live on the news

permalink
report
parent
reply

US thoroughly enjoyed the Cold War. Russia has a special place in their hearts

permalink
report
parent
reply
27 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply

About half the libs I knew then were against the Iraq invasion and they pretty much all hated Bush. Now nearly all the libs I know are cheering on Ukraine v Russia and they love Bide and Zelensky.

The Dinosaur Jr thing hurts.

Edit: adding to this, I freely expressed my views on the Iraq war then (in a liberal although military city) but I do not feel comfortable or safe freely expressing my views now.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Yeah. Local anti-war rallies and marches here against Afghanistan and Iraq had hundreds turn out. Now it’s an order of magnitude less, and I seriously don’t think that’s just COVID.

permalink
report
parent
reply

it is all " Gleichgeschaltet " now … no stupid Nazi Comparison , really its Insane …Total Lockstep … Applying all the umasked raw power that they have on the news systems …

To Push the Most Insne Line of Reasoning .

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

As long as no one of consequence is listening… :inshallah-script:

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

Seriously I can’t believe we’re just hoping none of those foreign policy ghouls make a fucking stupid ass decision

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points
21 points

At least the charities aren’t ghoulish at the end of the day.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply

Afghanistan and Iraq came after the 1990s and was still a time when tensions with Russia were pretty low, coming down off the Cold War, and Putin and Russia were viewed as quasi-allies.

Now we have 14+ years of propaganda build-up with the Russiagate hysteria as a major component to make people think the Russians are coming straight for their precious oligarchy liberal “democracy”. The State Department and its media wings were well-prepped for this one.

permalink
report
parent
reply

I think a huge part of it is “payback” for Trump. But that’s just a pet theory.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

The group of frothing media-obsessed shitlibs was created with Trump, then heightened with COVID, then heightened again against China and now it’s reached its peak. They’ve kept snowballing this group of media hysterics from topic to topic

permalink
report
parent
reply

Right they spent 4 years lying to the american people that not only was Trump put in the white house, hand picked, by Putin, but also that Russia was responsible for all our woes. It feels like this is the end result of those 4 years of non-stop propaganda.

permalink
report
parent
reply

now it’s reached its peak

Sounds like wishful thinking…

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

It is more than that, the first Cold War had bureaucracies on both sides staffed with 10’s of thousands of people who had just survived WWII, were reluctant to engage in total war - at least in Europe/USA, and had nothing like modern drone technology, cyber warfare, or MANPADS.

This war can turn into a conflagration any moment when either Russia is pressured to act domestically or NATO collectively. Russia’s economy is in collapse, and the causality numbers for the Russian-Ukrainian conflict are going to put the same sort of pressure on Putin that the Soviet-Afghan war’s numbers did on Brezhnev/Gorbachev. Putin doesn’t have the manpower to occupy Ukraine, so in the end even a withdrawal of Russian forces will now spark a bloody retreat which can keep escalating the conflict ever further with NATO involvement.

Every NATO country has its own domestic cauldron of personalities/issues so any one of them could end up in a hyper-nationalist turn and go to a war footing. The US’s constant imperial wars alone has shown why NATO is so dangerous. Many countries the world over would have been justified launching attacks on the US since NATO’s inception, and then what? NATO responds by leveling the country defending itself? NATO at inception had the opportunity to renounce wars of imperialism. It chose instead to act as a conduit for them.

I don’t hold much hope of either Putin or the dozens of NATO members who are involved to be the adults in the room on this. The generation that knew total war in Europe and the US is almost all gone. Nationalism is the curse that keeps on giving. Without a serious international security organization - without veto powers - this world is in for a rough ride going into 2022 imho.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply

news

!news@hexbear.net

Create post

Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember… we’re all comrades here.

Rules:

-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --

-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --

-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --

-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --

-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--

-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--

-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --

-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --

Community stats

  • 198

    Monthly active users

  • 20K

    Posts

  • 428K

    Comments