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Read "The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of the Occupied Territories " by Ilan Pappe. He’s Israeli. He’s Jewish. He’s willing to condemn Israel’s apartheid. TL;DR Israel has segregation down to the highway system. Raw sewage gets pumped into the swimming waters of the gaza strip. Palestinians in the gaza strip are constantly being rationed electricity to only a few hours a day. Their apartments are bombed with impunity. Lynch mobs go door to door hurting palestinians sometimes. There is nonstop annexation of Palestinian territory with new settlements. “Apartheid” is frankly generous. It’s been a slow motion genocide since 1948. Zionism started in the 1800s as a desire for European Jews to escape European antisemitism but they decided on annexing lands people already lived in so it became a genocidal settler-colonial project with Western backing.

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None of that is apartheid, though. Apartheid is stuff like not being able to buy land because it’s a white area.

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“it’s bad but it’s not the exact word according to this very limited definition i have decided to impose” :very-intelligent:

glad you agree it’s bad. Have you ever heard of a “de facto” vs. “de jure” distinction. They have de facto apartheid.

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I’m trying to convince hardcore Israeli supporters and while I’m at it, neutrals. You can spout all the atrocities you like and they’ll just say “Hamas deserved it” or some other such nonsense. I need to draw explicit links between South African apartheid and Israeli apartheid, ideally using Israel’s own laws. Failing that, videos of hardcore Israelis saying shit like “fuck yeah we have apartheid and it’s great.”

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Look at a map.

The area controlled by the Palestinian state is divided into tiny Bantustans, surrounded by hostile Zionist occupation forces. It is like that now and it has been like that in every “peace plan” for the last few decades. Neither the Zionists nor their backers in the US have any intentions of ever letting Palestinians control enough of their own country to have a sovereign, functioning state.

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Not just bantustans. Bantustans that look like swiss cheese, with Jewish settlements taking increasing amounts of the land every year.

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