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Not imperialism:

  • America couped ukraine in 2014
  • America put poroshenko in power. he integrated CIA-backed nazi extremists into the military and police and territorial defense units
  • America put yatsenyuk in power (he took out huge IMF loans that put most ukrainian farmland in the hand of foreign capitalists)
  • America poured billions into Yeltsin’s campaign in the 90s and supported him materially and ideologically as he shelled Russian parliament, banned parties, banned newspapers, and rolled back labor rights
  • America supported and benefited from the mass privatization of the former USSR that destroyed nationalized industries and put them into the hands of oligarchs
  • America supported right wing extremists in Ukraine and Russia for decades
  • NATO expanded right up to the Russian border despite assurances to Gorbachev this would not happen

(these are victories of democracy according to American libs)

Imperialism:

  • Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent further NATO expansion, to support DPR/LPR independence, and to prevent Ukraine from becoming a staging base for the American military (what usually happens to junior NATO members). for literally no reason, please stop asking why it happened, putin is just evil ok, history started in february
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just fukuyama my shit up

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Don’t forget that the ethnic Ukrainians from Galacia were probably going to slaughter huge numbers of ethnic Russians from eastern Ukraine.

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Don’t forget that the ethnic Ukrainians from Galacia were probably going to slaughter huge numbers of ethnic Russians from eastern Ukraine.

*have been for 8 years

in 2014, members of the Social national assembly, right sector, and misanthropic division, and “Fatherland is Young”, cornered a bunch of anti-Maidan demonstrators in an odessa trade union hall and burned them to death.

2 of the right wingers died, but 46 of the left wingers died, often from asphyxiation or suicide by jumping out of windows. English language wikipedia calls this outright massacre a “clash”

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from 2014-2022 approx 16k civilians dead in Donbas from Ukrainian shelling

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he granted Bandera “hero of ukraine” postmortem

didn’t this happen in 2010

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yeah, you’re right, it was yuschenko and not poroshenko, i had misremembered, thanks for the correction

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heh was using your comment as a pasta source on :reddit-logo: and got called out for it

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