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Partly there, it’s patriarchy.

Men viewed as giving up their patriarchal dominance is viewed as threatening to patriarchy, whereas women gaining patriarchal dominance is viewed as a positive thing because they’re trying to gain patriarchal power. This is why the focus was primarily on gay men rather than lesbians back in the day, and it’s why the focus is on transwomen more than transmen today. The transwomen are viewed as giving up patriarchal power, and that’s a threat to people with patriarchal power that want to maintain patriarchy, it causes a visceral emotional reaction in them.

The reactions to the two look so similar because they have exactly the same reasons.

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Funnily enough, I feel like it is actually completely backwards- they feel sneering scorn, hate or lust towards transwomen but the concept of transmen causes them profound, existential anxiety

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Grouping scorn, hate and lust together like they’re categorically the same is a bit weird. There is for sure some transphobic right wing dudes who are chasers/super into femboys (there is no difference from their perspective, there is for sure s big difference, just illustrating a mindset I disagree with) because that’s the logical end game of misogyny combined with a fascist mindset. They see women as tools for reproduction and not to go full all homophobes are secretly gay, along with the ancient Greek views on sexuality they tend to worship, fascists on the whole have always wanted relationships with femboys and to use women as breeding stock. I’m not the first person to remind people that sexual preferences even if radical do ot constitute radical politics, but the further right you go, the further they absolutely do

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I got carried away writing and decided to boil my post down to be a post people wont scroll over, but yeah, that was in the first draft. On ancient Greece lesbian sex wasn’t even considered sex cause there wasn’t a dude involved where there was super weird rules about how to be homo but no homo.

There’s also just the absolute fucking laziness involved in not understanding that wanting to change you gender or how you express it can have very little sexual inspiration. It’s like my dad who I can recall saying when I was too young to clap back “Why do gay guys act like women if they want to attract dudes who like men?”. Which both indicates that my dad would only fuck a dude if it was a full Tom of Finland drawing and just the fundamental misunderstanding that people may express themselves in non sexual ways. This is especially weird because straight dude fashion is the most aesexual garm possible

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Which both indicates that my dad would only fuck a dude if it was a full Tom of Finland drawing

your dad was apparently also a daddy

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Present tense. He’s still alive. The joke came to me but there was no fucking way I was gonna make it myself.

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