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I don’t know what the purpose of ranking is when all totalitarianism is wrong. Putin, NATO, Trump, Xi, nazis. They’re all harmful reactionaries

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Yeah the “savages” bit isn’t cool and overall it’s quite inflammatory and pejorative

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Who do you refer to as “you”?

I’m not associated with your writings and the way they simplify many nuanced things.

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This is an interesting case since you believe some very stupid things but seem to be earnest and intellectually honest about those beliefs. I think it demonstrates quite well the thesis that ideology is more a matter of enculturation than how “intelligent” one is. Some of your current beliefs are below you and I hope you come to understand that as you continue your investigations.

My suggestion is to take a critical (but not always negative) view of extremely broad and vague pejorative terms, as well as your willingness to place people under them who you frankly know very little about.

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Totalitarianism is a bit useless of a word when it has to include every state, no?

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Statelessness is a good goal and non-tolitarian state is an acceptable intermediate form.

But also sure, whatever similar terminology can be used. Authoritarian, autocratic, repressive, reactionary, undemocratic, dictatorial…?

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I started the same as you years ago until I learned how Material Conditions affect socialist movements. Michael Parenti’s speech on the Nicaraguan Sandinistas is very illuminating in that the reason that only “authoritarian” socialist projects are allowed to exist is because they are the only ones capable of defending themselves from fascist invasion.

The millions large anarchist movement in Korea was all well and good, but it failed, and the DPRK was the only one capable of preventing full scale US genocide of the peninsula. The CNT-FAI was all well and good but they eventually formed their own secret police, their own leaders, their own “authoritarian” means to so the very nasty and forceful business of revolution.

The reason you’re getting dunked on is because

  • Any logical framework that portrays those who did the Holocaust and those who ended the Holocaust in any way similar is a useless and genocide-denying framework

  • Socialist countries are shaped by the material reality of their time, I.e. the total war they face from the rest of the world, requiring war-like actions in return

  • The “authoritarianism” a socialist state is capable of is nowhere near the authoritarianism that capitalist and bourgeois-led states commit constantly through political control of their people and excesses that lead to the social death of many hundreds of millions. For more information read “Endless Holocausts: US Empire”.

  • Soviet, Chinese, Cuban, Vietnamese, Laotian (probably idk, Laos), and N. Korean democracy are and were far more robust than Amerikkkan democracy. For more information read Worker’s Participation in the Soviet Union, specifically for Soviet Democracy.

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Looks like we have an enlightened centrist over here. I’m not sure you know what the word ”reactionary” means.

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“Enlightened centrists” are always right wingers (and reactionaries) when you scratch the surface tho

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I don’t know what else to call you if you seriously think Xi and Nazis are equally bad.

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Reactionarism is the bourgeoisie anti-communist response to the rise of communism. It is a reaction to progressive change to make society less progressive. Could you explain how a democratically elected and generally well supported leader of a communist party is reactionary?

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Yes I know.

Depends on who is or when there will be a democratically elected and generally well supported leader of a communist party. Kerala’s current leader? Might definitely be a non-reactionary real deal. Haven’t checked.

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the curse of every revolutionary is to be regarded as a hero when they hold no power and to be regarded as a monster once they actually take it. you might want to reflect on why that is.

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Xi Jinping might actually be the most boring world leader around. If you read his writings it’s like a tutorial for an advanced simcity mod. If you think he’s remotely a fascist it’s because you’re wired into the US foreign policy disinformation network.

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