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Is this a Chamberlain impression? You think Russia is going to stop? Putin is an imperialist megalomaniac who wants fealty and submission.

If Ukraine signs on the dotted line, Putin will take it as explicit approval of his imperialist expansion on behalf of the entire West. There might be months to a year of tenuous peace then he’ll march onward until his puppet is sitting in Kyiv and Ukranians are speaking Russian.

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It’s funny how appeasement is the word liberals drool over. It is their ONLY historical anecdote and used to defend opposing any movement towards peace, ag Korea. The reality is Chamberlain’s big crime was no the act of appeasement, it was knowingly stringing along the French and Soviets only to bail officially when there was no means of changing plans for the USSR and Czechoslovakia.

Beyond that the comparison also doesn’t work because peace talks had occurred multiple times without excluding relevant parties. Minsk was a thing that happened.

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It’s just really useful. We want to do something. Remember the time we didn’t do something?

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You are still operating on the assumption that Russia can somehow win this war? Despite its best soldiers and equipment already being spent while the Ukies bathe in the latest NATO gear? Sure, they may be having trouble with their counteroffensive, but that don’t mean that the Russians can mount one of their own. The best case scenario for Russia is a ceasefire and a North/South Korea situation, with a backwards, authoritarian North (Russia) and a prosperous, democratic South (Ukraine).

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Democracy is when you have streets named after literal fascists leading to the sites of the Holocaust.

Also that equipment is not winning Ukraine any territory back. That’s like saying the Soviets couldn’t win WW2 in late 1944 because Germany was developing a jet fighter at that time.

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Remind me, how was the South doing when the DMZ was designated?

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You are still operating on the assumption that Russia can somehow win this war?

Yeah, it’s so stupid to believe this, I mean, look at who’s doing all the conscriptions. Oh. Fuck. Uh, okay, look who has doesn’t have a functional air force and is chronically short on ammunition, as admitted by the actual president of the actual United States (who, I hope you agree, is not a puppet of Putin). Hm. Well, look at all the territory that Russia still has in Ukraine! They must be just down a few villages by now considering that Russia is completely out of missiles, is fighting with shovels, is out of artillery, has no ammo, their soldiers are completely demoralized and also all dead! Fuck. Shit.

Look, if Russia’s army is so awful, so utterly and completely imcompetent, so out of ammunition, so demoralized, and Ukraine still can’t make a sizable dent in their defences after two months, then holy shit, Ukraine’s army must be fucking terrible. Like, holy shit it must be bad.

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It’s honestly really insulting how you just completely ignore entire paragraphs someone spent time writing for you after saying you were interested and willing to learn.

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I am uneducated on this topic and also arguing in bad faith

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Whoa


Gotta admit I respect the honesty

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props for being willing to admit this. it takes guts. now do the reading and educate yourself

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we already knew that from the username

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Is this a Chamberlain impression?

There is a Citations Needed episode about exactly this

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Oh, how am I just now finding out this podcast exists? Thank you sir.

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Remind me, where were Russian forces marching in February last year? It was some city… A capital even. Started with a K.

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Damn this is like, triple-distilled Kremlin Copium Reserve right here. Putin is an entirely rational actor? Lmfao! Is that why he picked a fight with a country a quarter the size of his and got a black eye? Is that why he flip-flopped in the Budapest memorandum? Is that why he blew up Priggy and pals for everyone to see?

Also, what kinda American provocations are you talking about? Was it the billions in IMF money Russia got in the 90s? That was provocative for sure. Or is it when they sent a spy to infiltrate your ruling party? Oh wait, Butina was Russian, it was the other way around, nevermind.

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Schroedinger’s Russia: simultaneously on the brink of defeat and collapse, but also this close to taking over all of Europe if we dont send $80 billion more dollars to some nazis right now.

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