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But we also recognize that Speaker Pelosi alone can’t deliver us a floor vote. The Medicare for All bill in the House needs to pass through six Committees’ jurisdiction, and it currently lacks financing language (i.e. how to pay for it), so it’s not a bill that can be voted on yet. This is why getting the bill out of committee has been one of DSA’s priorities. Over the past few years, working with other national and local groups, we’ve succeeded in pressuring chairs to hold the first hearings on Medicare for All in the Ways and Means, Energy and Commerce, Rules, and Budget committees. These hearings were historic; the first ever on Medicare for All legislation.

Seems like their just clarifying procedural congress shit. I don’t know why you’re upset with this.

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They are literally spewing neoliberal lies.

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yeah it’s the same shit they used on bernie in the debate. ‘how are we gonna pay for it?’ despite the fact that it would actually save money… just not for the people who are already making bank profiting off of death.

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I don’t see how it’s the same. Neolibs are saying “how are we going to pay for it” to suggest that it cannot be paid for. DSA is saying the bill is still in 6 committees and the committees have not decides how it should be paid for yet, basically saying it is an incomplete bill. Meaning House Democrats are stalling

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Yep, that’s DSA for you. Useless bunch of rich college kids who just think that socialism is when the government does stuff. There is a reason why the retort of “they just want free stuff” sticks with them.

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What’s the lie? If the bill hasn’t passed through those 6 committees and is incomplete then it’s incomplete

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Yeah if you read the bill, it creates a trust fund for funding m4a (really several funds) that must have money put into it, however how much money to put into it via what taxes or budget allocations since paygo is gone is not there. The statement dsa put out is completely correct. Like the answer it saves money via being cheaper and is funded with taxes is obvious but it still needs the actual amount of tax. Like the bill has to have an accompanying bill saying like defund military 100 billion and reallocate, tax the top 10 percent of income earners x amount etc or (unlikely) whatever it costs will be covered by currency creation if needed.

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So why wasn’t financing language included in the original bill?

I also find it highly dubious that the leader of the democrats in the house is unable to pressure any committee chairs.

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Bills aren’t introduced fully formed, they get finished in committees. This bill is still in 6 committees. The House Democrats clearly are not prioritising this bill because Pelosi could totally ask them to finish it quicker.

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