https://hexbear.net/post/114618
Post hog
The month long period when we first started telling people to post hog was probably my favorite part of the community, we were completely unstoppable
:bonk:
They started it! They said I was dishonest! Not true! I’m super honest! Mooooom!
They reaaaaally want people to believe the “covid is man-made” angle for some reason. Almost all of their post history is arguing that China altered it in a lab or some shit :cringe:
I skimmed their comments and they seem to be arguing the case presented in this nymag piece, which leftists like Abbie and Robbie Martin have praised for asking important and pertinent questions while also being nearly (but not entirely) devoid of anti-China propaganda. I’m not seeing any indications that they’re a chud.
It’s a scientific fact that a global flu pandemic in 1977 was caused by a laboratory leak of a particular H1N1 strain, so there’s historical precedent for considering this scenario.
I dunno. I’m sceptical because this was investigated by the west months ago and they found nothing to suggest it was altered or created in any way. Maybe it came from some lab, but to say the Chinese engineered it? Premature at this point. Especially because if there was any substantial evidence you know the west would be having a field day with it, but instead we’re getting vague stories like “Did covid come from a Wuhan lab? Who knows, maybe. There are some who suggest that it could.”
At this point, unless you’re spamming trans-hate or posting Kerry cringe, you’re usually pretty safe.
Hey @Dirt_Owl . I’m gonna copy-paste my message from somewhere else because I was talking about it with some of my friends :
I think it’s not a good idea to switch into “post hog” mode too soon and when it’s not entirely clear that the person you’re now bullying is actually a chud/troll, and in this case yea, I think it’s too soon. It can become very weird and gross, and the “post hog” thing is already weird and gross, albeit effective on the right target. The right target was also on reddit, and hexbear isn’t reddit. I feel like this is still kinda carrying some reddit-brainism in some way and I don’t know if it’s in any way useful/effective enough on hexbear to justify the negative effects.
Buuuuut, I also think the user that got bullied rightfully got push back, this media narrative needs to be kill-on-sight. It’s extremely worrying how a lot of the left accepts it just on technicalities (oh no it escaped a lab but they weren’t doing it purposefully), which of course if this version of the narrative ends up working it will not stop there, the leftists who support it will then go “Oh no! I didn’t want to blame china, I just thought it was plausible and a valid theory that it could have accidentally escaped!”
There you go. This isn’t against you personally, but I felt like I should share my thoughts on this.
Personally think “peepee or gtfo” is hilarious.
Making some people uncomfortable is good actually. Men being forced to feel a bit of sexual discomfort is a good way to highlight the creepiness of sexist behaviour and I miss unapologetically making men feel uncomfortable from the /r/shitredditsays days.
No I agree! But there’s the gray area of: Is the person you’re doing to actually deserving of it (chud/troll/etc) or is it more internal debate/confusion which to me doesn’t warrant this, and also is the person you’re doing it to a dumb fucking reddit guy or not. If someone after a heated conversation does this to an enby or trans comrade for example, I don’t really like that at all.
It’s about target I guess, and I’m wary of people jumping the gun and piling on a bit too early. I’m not comfortable with people having an “excusable” form of being creepy and harassing if it sneakily extends beyond justifiable targets. I don’t know if I’m being clear, sorry. I do get your point tho.
Mistakes should be fine too though? To a leftist getting called a chud is going to be more upsetting than the show me your dick part. Anyone that knows what the purpose of “post hog” is will immediately be like “Oh no what am I saying that is making people think I’m a chud?” rather than getting uptight about the thing itself. Why? Because every leftist here knows it’s not a legitimate request to post hog.
I said making men uncomfortable is good actually.
SRS was fantastic and I miss its active period often. Reddit lost its shit about us every single day and it was probably the most enjoyment I ever got out of that site.
Yeah, I’m pretty good at spotting a concern troll fairly early, but you are right. I should be careful not to come across as a creep if I end up guessing wrong one day.
naw dont get self conscious.
if you evr arent sure tho tag me and ill tell em to post hog
You’re actually terrible at spotting a concern troll, because I’m not one. I’ve been commenting on various accounts here and in the old /r/CTH for several years. That’s why I took such offense.
hexbear isn’t reddit
same class, same material interests, Papa Johns
(oh no it escaped a lab but they weren’t doing it purposefully)
accidentally escaped
Neoliberal (libertarian) capitalism is defined by privatization of industries that are normally socially controlled. It’s probably Obama’s fault for his lack of attention towards the increasingly deregulated academic industrial complex
I agree with your first part, but I don’t think theory needs to be kill-on-sight. Despite the huge political ramifications, the origin of the virus is still fundamentally a scientific question, and that entails considering every possibility that’s scientifically plausible. We just have to be careful about how we integrate those facts into our worldview and discourse.
For example, consider a hypothetical racist who argues that the fact that the AIDS virus originated in Africa is somehow evidence of the inferiority of black culture. The right way to argue against logic isn’t to push back against the proximal history of the virus, it’s to point out the absurdity of using that fact to denigrate an entire group of people.
I don’t know if you’ve seen this thread : https://hexbear.net/post/114586 but I feel like it’s a very good one with great discussions.
It doesn’t matter if it’s “possible”, this is not in the realm of a scientific question because this is happening in the media. The media isn’t scientific, the media has agendas and interests, and there’s a clear pivot and realignment with the american libs/democrats/biden behind this. Even acknowledging it’s possible is giving them ground, because there is not even any reason to ENTERTAIN the idea. Nothing has emerged, no evidence point to it, the few things that the media is focusing on is either entirely (and provably) made-up, or has as a sole source the US state.
This isn’t the discussion that is happening in the scientific sphere, a discussion that ALREADY happened and was already thoroughly looked into because yes, it is important for the scientific community. What’s happening is entirely in the media sphere, not in the scientific one. This is media trench-warfare, entertaining this as a “possibility” is giving ground, it will be followed by more, and more, and more, and more, to push into the new cold war agenda and justify specific actions. The truth doesn’t matter to them, and I don’t want us to get played.
I’m aware of that bogus intel/media dump based on the supposed hospitalization rate in Wuhan or whatever.
I’m talking about the scientific discussion I alluded to here, which predates that story by a few months.
Because the origin of the virus is still unknown, and learning the truth requires entertaining possibilities and investigating them.
I am the banned subject of this dunk and you are correct. I have been around since /r/CTH and I was one of the original “post hog” people.
I’m absolutely disgusted by the use of it here to shut down legitimate discussion. Anybody who read the entirety of that thread could see I was participating in good faith.
I’m not going to re-litigate this here but the lab theory is not propaganda and the harder this community fights it the more disconnected from reality it will become.
