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“Why wouldn’t this traumatized 10 year old child rush across an unfamiliar world to immediately become a super-weapon in someone else’s war literally subjective hours after his entire people and culture were destroyed in a super-naturally empowered genocide?”

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We’re also making Aang 37 so we can explore more mature themes. We think the audience will really like that better.

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It reads like they’re trying very hard to justify cutting all the “unimportant” episodes where we slowly have the characters better understand each other and the world was better fleshed out. All so that the new show can be 10 episodes a season.

Remaking things has never appealed to me, I don’t get it, I have the original good thing on my shelf, i will watch it as I want. Your new thing seems like yoy wanted money but didn’t want to risk making something new. Cowardly producers want more money but are so afraid of producing a thing that isn’t instantly popular.

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There’s always something admirable about a creative admitting what their limits are and how that has altered the production of their art. Rather than just trying pretend the limits don’t exist and spinning it as “actually I’m very clever to avoid these obvious flaws from the original”, so they can cover for their bosses not giving them the budget they need to actually bring the project in successfully.

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Even worse: the show is 8 episodes per season. Impossible to tell a story in this time frame, streaming media’s constraints are making for awful content with bad pacing. The overall length of a Netflix Season is too long for a film, and too short for a full season show. The premium tv episode length often also makes for episodes that are either trying to pack in a movie run time of content into half the time or more commonly to pad a standard network length episode into twice the time.

I think the only way to use this to make good content is to make your Netflix Seasons just be part of a season like Season 1: Part 1 and Season 1: Part 2, or to shoot for telling your actual story arc over the course of many seasons, each one being a chunk of the main story circle with a tiny mini side adventure loop built in.

I think two good examples of how to use the Netflix production/distribution cycle in these ways are Inside Job and Lupin, both of which seem to be canceled earlier than expected.

The Netflix model cannot successfully produce narrative driven content, because its format is too long for a for a movie, too short for a show, while also being too expensive for a show budget and not budgeted enough for a movie. It leads you to either make a mediocre spectacle or to have to spread your content out over multiple seasons.

Netflix will always betray you at a number of seasons other than your target, and having gaps of time between episode drops means you have to always make each mini-season feel partially complete but also not entirely complete in case you get renewed.

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lol we gave a narrative compulsion to a character who had a drive that was largely centered around not wanting the responsibility and fear of failure.

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Pacing and Leading, what’s that? A horse shampoo?

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“you were gone for 100 years and war broke out!”

“I see you, I hear you, you’re valid”

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lol we gave a narrative compulsion to a character who had a drive that was largely centered around not wanting the responsibility and fear of failure.

They seem to have forgotten that Aang was barely a teenager when he was told “Hey, kiddo, you’re the chosen one!” “So you’ve gotta stop being a kid and be an adult immediately.”

Then later learns that him doing what makes total sense (and is objectively a correct action) as a kid, not wanting to take on the scary responsibilities of adulthood when they’re still literally a child, winds up with everybody/thing he remembers with love and fondness were brutally destroyed.

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Okay, sure. But! Have you considered how much of a bummer that would be for the audience?

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They seem to have forgotten that Aang was barely a teenager when he was told “Hey, kiddo, you’re the chosen one!”

Actually he wasn’t a teenager, that was kind of the core of the problem. He wasn’t supposed to be given that burden until he was 16 but the monks smelled the war so they dropped “you need to save the world” on this kid when he was 12.

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So whats the reason for freezing himself then lol? Did it as a bit?

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Can we stop letting people who don’t understand the source material have control of the source material?

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It is owned by people that don’t understand the source material. I expect your suggestion is impossible to implement.

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They have at least 7 producers announced so far for the first season of 8 episodes. There’s an obsession of the Hollywood Gen X nepobabies to always get as many eyes on and hands writing as possible for all content, which invariably makes a good show impossible to create.

Writer’s rooms are often so packed they often have a revolving door of people of writers each writing different episodes at the same time, no longer using smaller writing teams because the production timeline is so tight, but because there literally isn’t enough room for all these writers to be in one space. These teams are no longer just 3-4 writers out of the group, but often over a dozen people. They don’t meet to communicate with the other writers in a large group because how do you have a pitch meeting or a script review with 100 people? You can’t, so you only bring them on for maybe 2 episodes and then they leave.

The new live action Star Trek series are notorious for being pretty bad and for having more writers and producers than they have episodes. Why did Star Trek Picard need over 60 producer/writers to make 30 episodes? (many of whom had so little creative control over the final product that they don’t even get listed on the wikipedia or IMDb page) Why did Discovery have about 90 people writing 65 episodes?

You need some level of consistency on your show and a handful of writers committed to making the content consistent in its narrative tone and storytelling style. The “many hands” model neither makes the work lighter nor produces quality content, yet it remains a foregone conclusion in Hollywood production under Gen X producers.

TL;DR: Too Many Cooks.

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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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the bit in the redlettermedia episode where mike is counting the amount of producers in an episode of Discovery is mind blowing

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Here time stamped RLM Discovery S2 review, absolutely bonkers.

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You can’t make this shit up, c’mon, a literal child can point out why this is wrong.

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