We’ve been clowning on MSM for their puny showing for the last few years, but this whole situation really shows their true danger and their capability to crush any opposition to the western empire. MSM all those years sucked because it was peacetime, they honestly did not gave any shit for what they posted, they were just making some quick buck. All those op-eds we roasted in the dunk tank? They’re all nothing, just filler material for the imperial media.

But now, we’re all seeing the full might of the western media war machine looks like when they have a set goal in mind and with the full support of capital. Absolute information control, multi narratives meant to appeal to literally everyone, information overload preventing people from effectively discerning fact from fiction, and most importantly turning it into a spectacle thus disassociating people from reality.

And really have no right to be surprised by this because I was reading “How to Read Donald Duck” (Para leer al Pato Donald) a week before this war. It’s written by a Chilean socialist during Allende’s time and talked about how America uses Disney as a weapon to spread capitalist thought under the guise of innocent children entertainment. But even better is that the edition I’m reading is the latest one with a preface written after Pinochet’s coup, where the author was targeted and entire printing of the book was burned or dumped into the ocean. Namely it talked about the influence of western owned- media in controlling the narrative and spreading capitalistic views in the lead up the coup, in particular how they attacked socialism as an evil foreign influence all while presenting themselves as innocent apolitical outlet, when in reality they’re funded by the CIA.

We the left must NOT and NEVER underestimate the power of western media, all AES states views them with scorn and limits their publication for very good reason. And for those who still criticizes or doubts China’s censorship of western media, it is because they fully recognized the influence it can have on the people’s consciousness. The MSM have been in this business for over half a century, they perfected their craft in Indonesia, Chile, and many more victims of imperialism. Because when the time that the left will finally have to face capital head one, we must be aware about the full strength of the enemy.

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Agree with everything you said, just wanted to point out that we also got a taste of this in 2020 (and 2016) with the Bernie campaign. I don’t think it’s the only reason he lost, so it was still just a practice session, this is when it really counts though, like you said.

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I think Bernie’s defeat and influence of the media on it was overlooked because most leftists thinks that Americans have little interest in the left in the first place, and that the fact that he had even a morsel of support was viewed positively. “Look how far he came, I wouldn’t have been a leftist without Bernie!”.

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Probably "considered’ by capital to be acceptable boundaries. You can be “interested” in all sorts of soc-dem this or that on a domestic level, but just like liberals it’s going to get channeled into the Dems who aren’t allowed to do a single thing about it (if they even wanted to)

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In the past 24 hours NY Post published 3 articles attacking DSA for the statement condemning the role of the US and NATO in this. A ton of other media outlets have done so too, its kinda funny to see it all. Sputnik also published an article thats kinda disingenuous and its definitely gonna be used as a way to say “see DSA is giving cover for Putin propaganda”

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I’ve noticed all that too. I had to finally unfollow Robert Evans when he retweeted a thread talking about how unserious DSA is because of that statement for calling out NATO…

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I’ve un-subscribed from evans’ podcasts (i would still pop in and listen to one when it was about domestic issues) as well as popular front, imperialists really showing their ass

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And for those who still criticizes or doubts China’s censorship of western media, it is because they fully recognized the influence it can have on the people’s consciousness.

This I am going to start yelling at all my lib Chinese relatives and friends.

(E: “lib” as in they support the gov but wish there weren’t censorship of western media)

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Does your family not just VPN?

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Some of them do, but it’s really more of a trope of complaining than anything. Plus it’s also about censorship on Chinese social media as well (which they also should realize how good they’ve got)

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and yet despite the full court press in consent manufacturing support for war only doubled from 25 to 50%

there is simply a huge installed base of westerners who absolutely do not believe a damn thing the white media says or doesn’t care.

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This is less about media, but I feel like it’s casually related: The CIA used the Aswang legend against the Hukbalahap.

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The Three Caballeros is literally an op.

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I was born in a western country but have a very Russian sounding name. Already had coworkers give me shit like I personally invaded Ukraine. Knowing how dumb your average American is anyone vaguely eastern European is going to be labelled a Russian too. Seeing how openly xenophobic people are on the internet and how little pushback it gets is genuinely kinda terrifying to me. Anyone else feel worried about this shit?

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Holy shit can people shut the fuck up. I’ve seen way too many people unironically saying that we need to uncritically repeat Ukrainian propaganda (even after it has been proven to be false) because it’s ‘necessary to keep morale high’ or whatever.

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The BBC also had someone on saying that this conflict was really emotional for them because people with blue eyes and blond hair are getting hurt so this seems pretty tame in comparison

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Even their fact checking article contained lies. A clearly Ukrainian plane was on video and the BBC said they couldn’t determine what country it was from.

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Change my mind, Russiagate broke more minds than Qanon did. The only difference is that ones better at disguising their brainworms better

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Agree. Russiagate broke the minds that control media AND the credentials of authority and professionalism. If Qanon is like a chronic bacterial infection in the body, Russiagate is like one of those parasites hijacks one’s brain.

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:amogus:

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:19::84: is not even this insane. Like I don’t think any dystopian fiction are ever this insane. Not even the fashies and Qanon nutters are this insane. Like all of them hinge on the idea that they’re the one who’s correct and everyone else are lying. Meanwhile, in this case the libs knew the truth and yet they explicitly rejects it because it goes against their goal.

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The Memelord of ‘Murica: single handedly made 69420 memes and fakes spreading pro-Ukraine propaganda in the West to unnecessarily prolong the war and cause more civilian deaths.

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So a friendly work acquaintance messaged me this evening to say that they’ve lost two clients today because someone they know got in touch with them to say he was posting pro-Russia stuff on Facebook. He’s an Ed Miliband level socdem who made a criticism of NATO and the rhetoric before the invasion two days ago. Apparently he messaged me because he knew I’m a commie and didn’t know who else to talk to. He’s freaking out about who sent the message to clients and whether they did / will to others, as well as the lost income obviously. People have lost their fucking minds.

:honk-enraged:

edit: Makes me glad for this place and you comrades. Keeps me sane while I keep my mouth shut at work.

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Comrade Putin removing capitalism from Russia. His regime will collapse and make way for a new communist revolution :inshallah-script:

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Wait they mean the entire corporations?!

But ma treats!!

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At risk for what?

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Complete and total bimbofication

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Apparently those franchises are considered at risk in this capacity because the US is uncertain if Russia will close them in response to sanctions

You could literally throw any Anglo restaurant chain that operates in Russia on this list lmao

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Not sure how it works in Russia, but in the US most stores are owned by wanna be/failed jet ski dealers. Fail to see how closing them punishes the west and does anything but hurt the workers there.

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