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I think that might be the other way around, Khruschev might have sinked both nations

Those texts from Mao somewhat illustrates my concerns https://youtu.be/w-e2veazbKc?si=Gnke24cs0zbVAudh

https://youtu.be/5KCP3Jahe6M?si=NSlQ3lTwJnx7aAOp

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I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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My thoughts are that Krustchev was a piece of shit who betrayed the revolution and set USSR on the course for collapse.

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Opinions on Kruschev feels like it could be a whole thread. Maybe even this whole thread.

(I haven’t done enough reading on Kruschev, but he allows you to exhaust a curse card every turn and he waves corn around)

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Absolutely agree comrade don’t blame Mao in the slightest to seek distance from him

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One of the worst events of the 20th century. Neither side was totally blameless, one had ultra-leftist deviations and the other had rightist deviations. But it wasn’t anything either couldn’t recover from if they worked through it, especially aligning their foreign policy.

Instead the US empire had free reign to overthrow every leftist movement in both hemispheres. They should not have been able to get away with everything they did, esp in SE Asia.

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Do you think that Mao fucked everyone up by aligning with the USA against the USSR?

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It’s very unfortunate and feels like it should’ve been avoidable, especially since China ended up following the USSR’s path of economic reforms and peaceful coexistence with the West. Mao had some pretty bad takes like on nuclear war, funding the Khmer Rouge, Lysenkoism, and the whole “continuous revolution” thing. But of course a lot of the blame also goes to Khrushchev. Imo the right line is that leaders like Stalin and Mao were necessary to safeguard the revolution and eliminate the horrible, unimaginable conditions that the people lived under before they came to power - but once that job is done, then the material conditions call for a more relaxed approach. But unfortunately, neither side saw it that way, and the result was irreparable damage to relations, which broke down trade and harmed lots of people from both countries. Nowadays, China plays nice abroad without caring much about the ideology of their trade partners, and it seems very stupid all around that two Marxist states couldn’t work things out.

It’s kind of a funny psychological phenomenon that people sometimes get more mad at people who broadly share their worldview but disagree about one thing, than they do at people who just don’t share their their worldview at all. I think to an extent the split is attributable to that, but I’m not really an expert on it.

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But why side with the USA against the USSR though? That was a betrayal to the global proletariat.

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