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Had the Sino-Soviet split never happened, the USSR would still be with us and the US empire would’ve already been made toothless.

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Does this make you feel angry towards China for deciding to split?

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I am more mad at the Corn Man, there where lots of dissions he mad that caused China to feel like they needed to split. for instance pulling missiles out of Cuba without consulting Cuba …

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19 points

But why the fuck did China had the feel to train the Afghans and give them weapons tf

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7 points

Corn man wasted his time trying to make peace with America and being nice to it instead of trying to make peace with China

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41 points

Dumbest move in the 20th century after

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36 points

Literally cannot think of a bigger diplomatic OOF

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One of the worst events of the 20th century. Neither side was totally blameless, one had ultra-leftist deviations and the other had rightist deviations. But it wasn’t anything either couldn’t recover from if they worked through it, especially aligning their foreign policy.

Instead the US empire had free reign to overthrow every leftist movement in both hemispheres. They should not have been able to get away with everything they did, esp in SE Asia.

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Do you think that Mao fucked everyone up by aligning with the USA against the USSR?

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It’s very unfortunate and feels like it should’ve been avoidable, especially since China ended up following the USSR’s path of economic reforms and peaceful coexistence with the West. Mao had some pretty bad takes like on nuclear war, funding the Khmer Rouge, Lysenkoism, and the whole “continuous revolution” thing. But of course a lot of the blame also goes to Khrushchev. Imo the right line is that leaders like Stalin and Mao were necessary to safeguard the revolution and eliminate the horrible, unimaginable conditions that the people lived under before they came to power - but once that job is done, then the material conditions call for a more relaxed approach. But unfortunately, neither side saw it that way, and the result was irreparable damage to relations, which broke down trade and harmed lots of people from both countries. Nowadays, China plays nice abroad without caring much about the ideology of their trade partners, and it seems very stupid all around that two Marxist states couldn’t work things out.

It’s kind of a funny psychological phenomenon that people sometimes get more mad at people who broadly share their worldview but disagree about one thing, than they do at people who just don’t share their their worldview at all. I think to an extent the split is attributable to that, but I’m not really an expert on it.

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But why side with the USA against the USSR though? That was a betrayal to the global proletariat.

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