You no longer have an excuse to be on :reddit-logo: outside niche hobby subreddits.
what the fuck
Pretty sure GenZhou started so it wouldn’t have the same shitpost-y, problematic, vapid content as GenZedong. I doubt it had nearly as much of a Ukraine conflict misinfo problem as GenZedong (which was supposedly the problem :reddit-logo: wanted to resolve).
The misinfo stuff is just to make libs turn off their brain, so reddit can do its thing unopposed.
I am aware that reddit’s moderation decisions can’t be taken in good faith, I’m thinking out loud about how silly it is to ban a lefty sub with a high level of discourse for being associated with a quarantined shitpost sub that had a misinformation problem. It reveals that misinformation wasn’t their problem, they simply didn’t want that kind of lefty discourse, and are looking for any rationale to silence it.
Ha! The lib dipshits have proven for the 9999999th time they aren’t morally consistent, surely their “power” will automatically self destruct now.
Mr r*ddit mod, ahem, mr pedophile, sir, you are fired
It reveals that misinformation wasn’t their problem, they simply didn’t want that kind of lefty discourse, and are looking for any rationale to silence it.
It’s weird that they even keep up the pretense of impartial moderation. I’ve never understood the preoccupation that people in power have with doing things “Legally”. Like you can’t just bring the hammer down, you have to have a process and appeals and all sorts of other pageantry first, then you crush any pretense of dissent. It’s like the police writing up endless reams of paperwork to document and justify why they beat the shit out of minority kids, when they could just as easily beat the shit out of minority kids and not document it, saving both labor and paper while achieving the same outcome.
Reddit doesn’t have to pretend, they can just ban leftists because they want to. But they still go through all this bullshit instead of just purging the site.
Look at their new Director of Policy, it’s not about misinformation. Don’t know this website but there’s other sources too.
I was subbed there, and I seriously can’t remember seeing anything about Ukraine at all. Pretty weird they would ban it before gzd, did not see that coming at all.
It was more educational and typically well sourced so it makes sense that it would scare libs more than GZD. If you think like a lib for a moment, fash memes are way more acceptable than like out and out nazi theory would be.
Definitely surprising though. Maybe they wanted to test the ban reception on a smaller, fringier group first?
Maybe they wanted to test the ban reception on a smaller, fringier group first?
I would posit the following.
Reddit can do whatever the fuck it wants and just ignore anyone who complains. They banned The_Dickwads and nothing happened. They’re sure as hell not going to get any blowback from pissing off a bunch of scruffy leftist shitposters.
I think they do the quarantines and shit to covince themselves that they are impartial arbiters protecting the integrity of the forum. It’s like a psychological defense. They don’t want to admit that they’re arbitrarily using their power to crush ideas they disagree with. That’s what bad guys do, and they’re good guys, so they wouldn’t do that. Instead they have a bullshit process that insulates them from taking responsibility from their reactionary actions. As long as they’re following a process and providing justifications for their actions at every step then they can crush dissent while still telling themselves that they’re a bastion for free speech on the internet.
Me? I’d just fucking slam the ban button on anything I found even mildly annoying then record and post react videos where I laugh at people’s feeble, powerless objections, because I understand that power is violence and hurting people who oppose your goals and aims is good.
TLDR; fucking useless libs
You no longer have an excuse to be on outside niche hobby subreddits.
christ this online shit is tedious
go outside please
I was thinking about 30 minutes ago that the internet itself is kind of an aberration that really only grew into what it is now because the majority of the societies in which it became a dominant form of communication are intensely alienating places. After my horny screed in the megathread I took massive morale damage and realized I need to log off but then I thought: what is there “out there”? The North American social landscape doesn’t seem all that great to me. I always found it telling that the majority of the most online people seem to always be from suburban hellholes.
People back then didn’t need the internet because outside was the fucking internet. Maybe I’m a cynic but I think of all the time I’ve spent online and I’m not sure that time has been more valuable than time spent outside. Maybe there is something to be said about it being a “cosmopolitan” place where you can meet all kinds of different people, but when 9999099999% of the people you meet are Langley bots spouting racist canards or pretty much no different from the average nerd you can find at your college’s gaming club what the hell is even the point?
Perhaps I am being far too critical.
the whole “This is the bad website, you need an excuse to go on the bad website!!!” shit is terminally online culture-war masturbation
twitter is full of liberals
tumblr is full of liberals
twitch is full of liberals
reddit is full of liberals
discord is full of liberals
the real actual world is full of liberals
The others you’re right about but Tumblr is full of communists and is virtually unmoderated outside of the porn ban
the majority of the societies in which it became a dominant form of communication are intensely alienating places
4chan developed from America’s neoliberal colonization in “post-fascist” (?) Japan
I have also felt similarly for a while. I always think back to that George Carlin piece where he calls out how pathetic transforming the continent to strip malls and parking lots is. I go outside practically everyday it’s nice out and if it’s not the same shitty house copy-pasted thousands of times, then it’s a sea of shitty businesses that are somehow still open mixed in with dilapidated buildings separated by enormous swathes of land dedicated solely to cars. The one constant is a disgusting ambience either from lawn equipment or all of the cars, depending on where you are. That and the poison you have to breathe in from walking within ten feet of cars and weed killer.
Quasi-relevant story; During rural electrification in the first half of the 20th century they started running power lines to fairly isolated farmhouses. Like “Your neighbor is a mile down the road, and his neighbor is a mile further than that” isolated. Places where you couldn’t really stop in to chat while you had shit to do. But due to some kind of socialist insanity it was decided that rural electrification was good, so they were running power lines all through these isolated low population density areas. And it turns out that you can run phone lines just as easily as you run power lines, so all these very isolated people were getting phones for the very first time. Back then there weren’t really individual phone lines. The phone was always on. You’d pick it up and ask to speak to the telephone operator, and that person would manually route your telephone connection. But that meant that everyone on the circuit could essentially pick up the phone and either talk or listen in to anyone else on the circuit. So all these rural farmers were basically in a big group chat with each other in the evenings when it was too dark to work but they weren’t in bed yet. People could actually socialize without devoting big chunks of the day to travelling.
Well, what happened is rural suicides plummeted.
I don’t meet people outside. I have brief, entirely transactional encounters with people when I buy stuff or work. I never see those people again. I don’t interact with people in any meaningful way otherwise. Being online isn’t the problem. Society is just as isolated and alienating outside as it is inside. Third spaces and places for community socializing have been ruthlessly exterminated across the continent. If you’re not an alcoholic or religious there aren’t really options to meet and talk with people in face to face.
Yeah, I feel this. I live in a small city (100k population) where the bus system kinda sucks and I don’t drive / will never own a car. “Go outside” to meet people is a ridiculous idea – there isn’t a single place in this horrible town where other young people actually hang out anymore. To be honest I don’t even know wtf people do to meet each other besides join hiking Meet Up groups… very lonely, shitty town if you are young and especially if you don’t drive.
That’s the problem though they do make you they say you’re free to wear pants but that’s not really freedom.
There is still r/shitliberalssay
it’s probably still alive because Reddit mods have mistaken it as a conservative sub
It’s not lost, /u/SeattleML archived all of the posts up to last week thankfully https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/tvxix0/rgenzhou_just_got_banned/i3byihu/
This community is quarantined
Contains a high volume of information not supported by credible sources.
soulless holocaust technician PMC: “uhh actually the ideology of the working class is fake news”